Author Topic: ACR Teen/Adult Attraction Fix crashing my game (Read 1996 times)

dxkg · « **on:** June 12, 2012, 05:49:02 PM »

I recently had to reinstall my entire game after a neighborhood borked, and this time around I want to avoid Inteen if I can help it. HOWEVER... the Adult/Teen - Teen/Adult Attraction Fix, which I never used in my previous installation, crashes my game. (I have Uni+NL -- original NL, not one of the newer versions that runs on a higher game engine.) The documentation says that this mod is NL-compatible, but upon re-reading the explanation it sounds like this file also mods something from the Pets EP. Once I remove it ACR functions correctly, except for the lack of teen/adult interaction.

Is there any way I can fix this EP incompatibility via SimPE, or should I just hunt down an alternative mod?

miros1 · « **Reply #1 on:** June 12, 2012, 06:27:38 PM »

Hm, the teen-adult attraction used to be available without the skunk...

dxkg · « **Reply #2 on:** June 12, 2012, 07:56:13 PM »

I just hooked up my external hard drive to run SimPE, deleted the skunk pieces from the BHAV, and threw the mod back in my game to see what would happen... now it no longer crashes, and if *I* direct a pair of teen/adult sims to interact via the Casual...flirt/kiss/woohoo menus, everything works just fine. But if the actions come up spontaneously from Adult --> Teen, I get errors. (Side issue: I had two empty bedrooms, so why the heck was everyone trying to woohoo on the occupied living room sofa in the first place?!

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I uploaded a couple of the object error logs & things from the OETreeDelete file if anyone wants to take a look...

OETreeDelete
Error Log 1
Error Log 2

mark93 · « **Reply #3 on:** June 12, 2012, 08:13:39 PM »

When your game bork did you have both Inteen and the Teen/Adult Attraction fix in your game.

If you did then that might have been your problem for Inteen allready has it.

zephyrzodiac · « **Reply #4 on:** June 12, 2012, 08:29:02 PM »

Also, did you delete groups.cache after messing around with stuff? If not, the game may be trying to find something that is no longer available.

I had a look in my saved hacks folder, and found this early version, if it's any help.

BoilingOil · « **Reply #5 on:** June 12, 2012, 08:41:28 PM »

@mark93: if I read the top post right, they have the teen/adult attraction fix in for the first time now, *because* they don't want to use Inteen this time. To me, that implicates that previously, they *did* have Inteen, but *not* the T/A attraction fix.

IF my assumption is right, then your question would be irrelevant, because they're not asking about why their game borked previously. In stead, they're asking why the T/A attraction fix is causing problems now, *after* the reinstall, thus *without* Inteen.

@dxkg: ZZ is right. If the groups.cache file exists in your "My Documents/EA Games/The Sims 2" folder, then it will contain pointers to BHAV entry points in your mods and other custom files. After adding/deleting/altering any CC, those pointers are no longer valid, and the groups.cache needs to be deleted.

To be honest, I find the description for the T/A and skunk attraction fix a bit confusing. Because how could it be an NL-level mod, if it contains stuff concerning a skunk that doesn't appear until Pets? I'll dig around in the dead pool, see if there's a skunk-less version of that fix.

ETA: I got ninja'd by ZZ's attachment of an earlier T/A fix...

zephyrzodiac · « **Reply #6 on:** June 13, 2012, 02:11:54 AM »

The point, BO, is that the fix was originally made for NL, the version I uploaded was the original update for Pets, but fine for NL, and it was later that the problem with the skunk was noticed, when TJ created a skunk attraction fix. Originally, they were two separate mods, the at some point he put them together in one fix. However, since TJ had the latest update included in the NL mods downloads, I assume he felt it was fine for games that didn't include a skunk. Obviously, it would seem this is not the case.

BoilingOil · « **Reply #7 on:** June 13, 2012, 03:23:32 AM »

Indeed.

zephyrzodiac · « **Reply #8 on:** June 13, 2012, 03:52:56 AM »

Well, there wasn't an Any Game Starter back then (at least, if there was, it probably wasn't very reliable) so it was hard for modders to be sure that things would work for earlier expansions.

BoilingOil · « **Reply #9 on:** June 13, 2012, 07:53:17 AM »

Yeah, I can imagine.

dxkg · « **Reply #10 on:** June 14, 2012, 02:58:12 PM »

Hi all, thanks for the help. I finally had time to test today.

1) I deleted groups.cache and put the hack version that I edited (1.3a but with the skunk attraction part removed) back into the game. I launched the game in my tester hood and ACR functions between adults had resumed as normal. Teen-Adult interactions still caused jump bugs when generated autonomously, as did Auto Woohoo, and attractions did not form (no hearts, no "has the hots for", etc); but player-directed interactions between teens and adults worked just fine. (There was no "try for baby" option in the pie menu when I tested TF & AM ... should it have been there, or do I need to put in my pregnancy mod for that to appear?)

2) I tried the version of T/A Attraction that ZZ kindly provided (v1.1), and the game crashed as soon as I took it off pause. This is also how v1.3a behaved before I edited it in SimPE.

So... I'm not really sure what to try next.

(This hack should not conflict with anything in the MATY director's cut, correct?)

zephyrzodiac · « **Reply #11 on:** June 14, 2012, 03:48:57 PM »

Oh, I wouldn't be too sure of that! Did you subfolder alphabetically, with TJ's stuff loading after Pescado's? Did you run the Hack Conflict Detection Utility?

dxkg · « **Reply #12 on:** June 14, 2012, 06:33:24 PM »

I do have everything alphabetically, so the load order is correct.

I can't run HCDU right now because I'm a mac user & I'm not near my external HD with my emulating software, but -- I don't think a hack conflict is actually the problem, because I still get the same crashing when I remove everything but ACR and the v1.1 T/A Attraction fix. I also get the exact same jump bug using v1.3a whenever a teen & an adult try to autonomously have sex, both when all my other hacks are removed and when they're all in the game. (It did give me the lightning bolts between them when I went through the pie menus this time, but I still had no "try for baby" option even though I had a pair that was TM/AF.)

I don't know enough about modding bhavs to guess at how to diagnose/correct the problem, but when I went into v1.3 in SimPE, I did see something there that was still flagged for Pets that I couldn't change... but I don't know what it's meant to do.

mark93 · « **Reply #13 on:** June 14, 2012, 08:07:25 PM »

What teen woohoo mod are you using now.

zephyrzodiac · « **Reply #14 on:** June 14, 2012, 08:14:12 PM »

If you have ACR you don't need any other teen woohoo mod. What you do need is something to allow attraction between teens and adults; although I don't use the teen/adult part of the attraction fix, my teens are able to woohoo with their YA boyfriends/girlfriends. They just lose the attraction bolts, not the hearts.

dxkg · « **Reply #15 on:** June 14, 2012, 08:34:33 PM »

@mark93: none. I was intending to use ACR in combination with Chris Hatch's pregnancy controller so I could bypass Inteen and its many conflicts, but I don't plan to add that until I get ACR working 100% properly first!

@ZZ: now that you mention it... I can still get teens to use the ACR actions without the T/A mod in my folder (if I go into the pie menu and manually do Casual > Flirt/Kiss/Woohoo > Whatever), but they won't interact autonomously with adults unless I put the T/A mod in. But then it has the issues I already mentioned.

zephyrzodiac · « **Reply #16 on:** June 14, 2012, 08:42:22 PM »

Well, they obviously won't do anything autonomously without the attraction fix. I honestly don't know whether it was originally made just for NL, or whether TJ made it later, and then added the skunk part because of the problems with the skunk.

I personally don't use the teen/adult part of the fix because, while I accept that an ongoing romance between two teens should not end just because one has got a bit older and gone to college, but the idea of teens and elders just smacks to me of paedophilia....

dxkg · « **Reply #17 on:** June 14, 2012, 09:00:05 PM »

I guess, but it's useful for playing historical hoods, which is why I use it. It's also helpful if you don't use Uni and your sims don't age up at the same time. (Although, if it isn't vital to ACR functioning properly, I may just give up and do without it.)

zephyrzodiac · « **Reply #18 on:** June 14, 2012, 09:27:31 PM »

ACR definitely does not need the attraction fix. Obviously, if you are playing historical hoods, teen girls would no doubt be married off to wealthy older men - but whether they were actually attracted to them? I have my doubts.

kennysuewho · « **Reply #19 on:** June 15, 2012, 06:44:05 AM »

Do you have the ACR phone books spawned on whatever lots your looking for autonomous teen interactions? I do believe you need that for teens to be autonomous.

zephyrzodiac · « **Reply #20 on:** June 15, 2012, 08:15:49 AM »

You definitely do, also for elders.

dxkg · « **Reply #21 on:** June 15, 2012, 03:35:38 PM »

I do have it spawned on the lot, yes. And all the proper options are enabled.

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