Plug and Play?

[schmO]

Are each of the individual ACR mods plug and play compatible?

To put it simply, I am trying to enable a sofa woohoo but don't really care to install all the rest (yet, maybe in another hood.)

If not, is there an alternative sofa woohoo mod out there?

[BoilingOil]

No, I don't think it works that way. You might be able to install the complete ACR mod, and then leave the sofa-socials out (but why would anyone want that?), but not the other way around!
As for a sofa-woohoo hack... I believe you might look into Dizzy's work (available at Crazy Town).  He's made a hack that transforms Make out on a sofa into sofa-woohoo, if I'm not mistaken.

[thetigerking83]

I'm the opposite, I wish ALL romantic/woohoo interactions and items were controlled by ACR.

[Zirconia Wolf]

Ack!

That would seriously freak me out!

I like to have at least some non-sex-obsessed Sims in my game- which is likely the reason I keep balking at installing ACR in the first place. It seems prone to turning almost everyone into sexaholics & that would NOT fit my play style in the least! (I'm kind a sap about marriage & would be seriously pissed if all my couples were cheating.)

(Still wanna try it some day...with static tokens, of course!)

[zephyrzodiac]

Try it in a test hood first, and see what you think.  That way, if you decide not to use it, you won't feel like your sims are being robbed!

[thetigerking83]

Not really, the settings allow you to go so far as to control autonomy per sim if you wanted. But it certainly doesn't make them sexaholics unless you have them or it set that way, even if it did feel that way to you, you could simply turn autonomy off though. The reason I like ACR so much in the first place is that, at least for me, disabling maxis romance interactions via squinges no romance collection, and leaving ACR on actually cut down on the constant making out, kissing, and whatnot. I find the autonomy of the CJH stuff a bit high aswell, which is why I kind of wish it were just a part of ACR. ACR does let sims auto woohoo but that could be disabled aswell. It's all a matter a preference though.

I'm one of the people that doesn't want to control the sims, but rather the rules they live by. Quite often my game will play for several minutes without me touching anything. (I don't often walk away though as discussed in another thread.)

~Cross-post~

A good suggestion ZZ.

[zephyrzodiac]

We've been telling ZW all that about it not being a route to a sex-crazed hood for yonks!  I don't think she believes us.....

[Zirconia Wolf]

Oh I want to believe, but I keep seeing those occasional "I have ACR set to no-cheating but everyone's still going at it like gangbusters" posts, and my inner control freak has heart failure and panics. (It's a sensitive little critter, that control-freak of mine!)

It will defiantly be a *test-hood* thing for it's maiden voyage in my game, so I can learn how to properly control it to my satisfaction. Just want to make double-dog positive that I can have (at least some) monogamous couples and ACR installed.

Given that my computer is located in the center of a black hole (as I mentioned on the how-to-safely-package-Sims thread) it should be interesting to see how it decides to work for me....

[BoilingOil]

So you still haven't managed to break the event horizon and release the pull of the gravity well? Tha'ts one heck of a black hole you're talking about, then!

Really, if autonomy is switched to OFF, nobody will ever get the idea of autonomously performing any of the ACR interactions. It's a practical and theoretical impossibility! It's like a "No-autonomous ACR" mod And seeing the number of "No-auto ..." mods in existence, and especially how TJ himself made quite a few of those, I guess you may assume that he knew what he was doing, when he added that option to the ACR menu

Really, even with autonomy on, I wonder when my sims will ever become those sex-crazed maniacs you're so afraid of.

[Zirconia Wolf]

So you still haven't managed to break the event horizon and release the pull of the gravity well? Tha'ts one heck of a black hole you're talking about, then!

Nope, still stuck in a scary, unexplainable netherworld where things that "always" happen don't and things that "never" happen do, I'm afraid.

As to the autonomy settings, while I supposed "off" would solve the problem (assuming my black-hole cooperates) it kinda seems silly to have a mod like ACR installed and not allow any autonomy for any Sims, you know? So I am hopeful that I will be able to find a *happy medium* (as in "a compromise" and not some sort of giggling Gypsy chick) in the black-hole dimension in which I seem to reside.

(Sorry 'bout the stupid "happy medium" joke- but I'm not right in the head, remember!)

Really, even with autonomy on, I wonder when my sims will ever become those sex-crazed maniacs you're so afraid of.

Tell you what: If any of my Sims start behaving like that, I'll package them up & send them your way, okay? 

[BoilingOil]

So I am hopeful that I will be able to find a *happy medium* (as in "a compromise" and not some sort of giggling Gypsy chick) in the black-hole dimension in which I seem to reside.

(Sorry 'bout the stupid "happy medium" joke- but I'm not right in the head, remember!)

At the risk of nobody believing me, but that was the first thing that entered my mind when I read the *happy medium*: some sort of giggling Gypsy chick!

It made me uncontrollably!

[Zirconia Wolf]

(Well, if anyone other than me would have thought of a *giggling Gypsy* at that statement, it most likely would have been you, wouldn't it?)

I suppose given the right ACR settings, I could in fact see some very "happy mediums!" 

[Sleepycat]

heh, my sims are really only sexaholics when I keep resetting their timers    and even then they don't always become sexaholics.  Often I find even my married Romance sims need to be encouraged to cheat.  I mostly run it on the default settings too.

[simsfreq]

The only sims I had who were sexaholics were a 3-bolt couple. I don't like most of the adult mods which enable other sex locations either - they're far too "attractive" to sims and I don't want to watch a pixelated porno, thanks.

I don't think I've had anyone be unfaithful yet either, though if you were really worried about that I think there's a global override you can set.

[schmO]

No, I don't think it works that way. You might be able to install the complete ACR mod, and then leave the sofa-socials out (but why would anyone want that?), but not the other way around!
As for a sofa-woohoo hack... I believe you might look into Dizzy's work (available at Crazy Town).  He's made a hack that transforms Make out on a sofa into sofa-woohoo, if I'm not mistaken.

Thanks all for your comments and the interesting follow-up discussion.

Yeah, as cool and tranformative as the ACR could possibly be, the only nice thing I like about it is the whole casual part... not so much on the autonomous part. I don't really want timers to count down the last time I woohoo'd or made out, as my neighborhood is less General Hospital (those characters sleep with everybody!) and more mixed bag.

Although the prospect of a random booty call is nice, I can always just pick up the phone and do it myself. I'd rather have the option of picking and choosing which Sims want to do it, where, etc... Maxis defaults are certainly not ideal, but I'm not quite sure ACR is either. I know that the ACR is configurable and that there is a reasonable (high-level?) amount of configurability, but I'm just not ready to make the leap... yet.

I just signed up over at Crazy Town and found the mod in question. The mod will consider a "makeout" as a woohoo, but only if both Sims are naked, and the "get naked" mod is not included. To be honest, I'd prefer to have a new pie slice option altogether for woohoo while on the couch but using the makeout animation (and have their clothes be removed in the process.) Sometimes making out on the couch can be useful for my more prudish Sims.

Any idea how in-depth and insane it would be to try to make this mod myself, perhaps using an existing mod as a base? I'm confident it might be very complex, and I certainly don't want to break anything.

[arathea]

You know that you can disable ACR autonomy completely and still have the casual options available in addition to the default ones?

[schmO]

You know that you can disable ACR autonomy completely and still have the casual options available in addition to the default ones?

Hmm... looks like I'll have to read the FAQ again.

I'm curious now.

[MaryH]

There is a limit to how 'non-autonomy' can run, though-if a sim is really, really in love/attracted to the opposite sex (ok, even the same sex) the autonomy becomes a self-fulfilling want. In other words, you are playing with a very determined pixel who will do damned well what they want to, despite your best efforts.
I know this one by experience. Turned off all autonomy for them, and they're still going at it! Usually it's just the married ones who do this, and not the singles. The single ones I set it at high, and hope the birth control works!

[Alexandra]

So I'm not the only one hesitant to use ACR?

I'm a very conservative person, and my Sims do not have sex with anyone they're not married to.  I get Don Lothario married to Cassandra, and I make him behave himself...if he doesn't like it, I'll just change his aspiration to Fortune, problem solved (plus more attracted to Cassie in the process).

On the other hand, the idea of sofa WooHoo does sound interesting....

[Zirconia Wolf]

Nope, you're not completely alone - though I can't say that you're in good company, given my reputation for being not right in the head most of the time!

While I can't claim to keep all my Sims from pre-marital (and in some case, extra-marital) relations, I am rather controlling in regards to who's allowed to do what with who, especially when dealing with married couples. For a single chick, I'm something of a romantic/sap in the area of marriage & tend to prefer unhappy Sims to *divorce* before moving on, plus I have several "crazy-in-love" couples that I don't want *destroyed* by any potential home-wreckers, so I am forever going back and forth about installing ACR.

I really like the idea of Sims being able to *do their thing* without me always have to tell them to...but I don't want to turn my neighborhoods into full blown pixel porno either & just want to make extra certain that I can make ACR behave like I want it to. (The more I read the better I am coming to understand how exactly the various settings work, so will likely be taking ACR for a test drive - in a test hood - in the not too distant future.)

[Alexandra]

I also prefer to have my married couples reconcile.  I can't stand divorce; that's why I get the O'Mackeys back together in Riverblossom Hills.  Though in Belladonna Cove, I feel that Jessica Peterson made her bed, she can lie in it.  She wanted all the benefits of being married to a rich Sim and fool around on her husband's Simoleon, the hussy! 

Consider that I'm a conservative Christian, I'm married to the only man I've ever kissed.  (But I have nothing against my married Sims using the photo booth for something other than taking pictures!  Though if Crumplebottom's skulking about, I have them take things to the car....)

I just don't want to wind up with a 'hood-wide orgy or something.

[Zirconia Wolf]

I just don't want to wind up with a 'hood-wide orgy or something.

Nor do I, hence the reason ACR will be making it's debut in a special test 'hood for me to give it a complete "going over" as I run it through it's paces. If I can make it work 100%  to my satisfaction (99% won't cut it) and there's no unauthorized fooling around, then it can stay & "meet" my other 'hoods. If it insists on ignoring my wishes, then it will be summarily kicked to the curb...but I'm hopeful that it's as *trainable* as folks claim, as I really like the idea of Sims WooHooing on their own...so long as it's with who I say they can!

[Alexandra]

I might give it a test run in a custom 'hood myself.  I rather like the idea of my married Sims autonomously flirting and doing whatever else with each other.

I also tend to be a bit of a control freak when it comes to my pixel dollies, though ironically I leave Free Will on (it's kinda creepy when they just STAND there and do nothing).

[zephyrzodiac]

Make sure that you set their One to permanent, and make good use of the *Add to Friend Zone* option.

[Alexandra]

Well, I'll just move the 'hoods I'm currently playing to another folder, and fire up another 'hood and see how it goes.

[Zirconia Wolf]

I also tend to be a bit of a control freak when it comes to my pixel dollies, though ironically I leave Free Will on (it's kinda creepy when they just STAND there and do nothing).

That's me too.

Despite my iron-clad-grip, I just can't stand it when they all stand around like a bunch of statues! The only times I've tuned free will off was when I was moving the Life Stories/Pet Stories peeps into TS2, as having 18 (or so) Sims/pets running around un-checked on the same lot was just maddening! (All I wanted them to do was stand there and look stupid until I got them properly placed in their new 'hood, & that was NOT happening with free will on!)

[Alexandra]

Little bit off-subject--you say you managed to get the Life Stories bunch into Sims 2?  The best I can do is extract them via SimPE and plunk them down in a neighborhood.

[Zirconia Wolf]

Yep, I managed to get them transferred- but I couldn't do it they way you're supposed to.

The way it's supposed to work is that you finish the *story mode* so you are in *free play* mode (because transfering during *story mode* is a major no-no) then you grab everyone you want to move & stuff them on the same lot (you'll need a teleporter and a mod to allow for more than the "normal" amount of Sims on a lot) then you exit & fire up SimPE and remove all memories/relationships/etc with ANYONE who is NOT on the lot, make sure nobody is currently employed & remove any items from their inventories, then you go back in the game & package the lot to a file (Sims2Pack) then you exit the game & install the Sims2Pack (via the Clean Installer) into TS2, then you install the lot into a temporary hood and make sure all is well (no bits of Sims/etc that aren't on the lot) after which you can re-package them & put them where you want. (Remembering that you need to keep them all together, or else you need to edit memories/etc again.)

However because I live in the center of a black hole universe, I could not go the Sims2Pack route (as the option to create them is NOWHERE to be found in my LS/PS games) so instead, after I did all my SimPE prepping I had to manually move the ginormous lot into the Lot Bin (which is normally something one tries not to do) exit the game, snag the lot package file out of the Lot Bin folder, put it into my TS2 Lot Bin folder (renumbering it if need be) and proceed from there.

A bit tedious, but it works like a charm!

[Alexandra]

Okay...

At any rate...I backed up a copy of my Riverblossom Hills hood.  It was actually pretty funny...I directed Gabe and Alexandra O'Mackey to go do it on the couch...wouldn't you know, they got naked and went to the bench right outside their house...and it was fall (and a good thing their younger daughter was asleep upstairs--Jules and her husband Jacob Martin are at college).

Then Gabe, being a shy Sim, realized that they were naked and did the "I'm embarrassed!" face-palm thing.  Then they finally did it.

I dunno...I'm not really sure this mod is for me.  Maybe it's all the options...I'm like...okay...let's see what this does....

I just hope that the no-fail birth control in InTeen actually works with this.

[simsfreq]

I don't know if it uses the inteen chances of pregnancy, I think it uses its own. Either way if you go into the options you can set global defaults for risky percentage to be 0, which means they'll only get pregnant if they try for baby. The default is that only married couples will TFB but you can change the options per sim either to allow it or disallow it.

It does take a while to get used to how it works, but I like it I like the way my sims will choose on their own how many children to have.

[arathea]

I like the way my sims will choose on their own how many children to have.

Yep, pair up a family/wealth sim with a knowledge/family sim, add T&Q random and see what you'll get.

[zephyrzodiac]

I love the way risky woohoo, set at the default, seems to target Romance Sims above all others....

[Katya]

I just hope that the no-fail birth control in InTeen actually works with this.

Even if it doesn't, ACR V2 has an option to disallow pregnancy on a sim-by-sim basis: I use it in my game when my sims have definitely had enough children. If you have the try for baby dialogue boxes set to appear, the first one (which gives the base rate +/- aspiration, +/- kids etc.) will still appear, but even if the number they roll is under the total, they will never progress to the second dialogue box (the one which has the fertility percentage).

[Alexandra]

I uninstalled it all (but I have copies of the InTeen and ACR files in a folder).  I guess all the options are a bit overwhelming at this point.  At some point I'll probably try it again, in a custom 'hood.

I guess I'm too much of a control freak.    Sometimes I let Sims do their own thing--if they want to play chess, go ahead--but while I leave Free Will on, I prefer to direct them to work on skills or pay attention to their kids.

[zolabee]

I'm a control freak to a point and am conservative in RL, still have ACR.  It is my escape from stress.  I can do things to my Sims that would never consider in RL.    My problem in being socially, politically and morally conservative am guessing is my very wicked, slightly twisted sense of humor.  Also, with ACR and Inteen, if they play and get caught, there is no escape clause.   ACR is set to defaults and if it is a couple that I know wouldn't cheat, they don't.  The only places for orgy's are where they would normally happen.  *yep, I have a private club or a couple of residences for that sort of thing* Walk-bys are taken care of with TJs mod to ban people from places.    My hood is somewhere between RL and Days of Our Sims.  Of course everything is off the table when playing out a story to post.   

[Sleepycat]