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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #100 on: January 17, 2010, 06:19:20 AM »
BTW, realising how much I want to keep it in my game (and with Syberspunk retired) I would be very glad if someone could help me to edit the adultsgosteady hack so that it has higher acceptance levels. Currently they vary between 25 to 45 percent, depending on aspiration. I does not have BCONs, so the values must be directly in the BHAVs (?).

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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #101 on: January 17, 2010, 09:02:44 AM »
I have another question regarding the autonomous break-up. I had two teens, 3-bolters, in love and each other "The One." However, they go steady and the bf goes home, shortly after I receive a message that they are no longer going steady. I check to see what is going on and they still show 3-bolts, in love, etc (without the going steady part as TJ fixed that). I can't figure out what prompted the break-up. No one was fooling around with anyone else and nothing had changed in their stats towards the other.

So what factors go into the autonomous break-up? If you have a couple that is very much in-love with the other, with no outside influence to change anything (ie cheating with another, etc) why did they "just break-up" for no apparent reason? :hmm:


I had the same thing happen last night. My legacy founder and the townie I had chosen specifically for him went to bed and while they were sleeping I got the message that the engagement was off. I quickly rectified this situation when they awoke but have since disabled autonomous break-up. I mean, I finally find a good looking townie whose name begins with the proper letter (and we all know how rough THAT is) and my Adam breaks up with her! So it will remain disabled at least with this couple.
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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #102 on: January 17, 2010, 06:15:21 PM »
Yeah, I've got it disabled for now also.  :hmm:
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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #103 on: January 17, 2010, 07:14:11 PM »
What happens if you set them both to Static - One?
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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #104 on: January 17, 2010, 07:18:49 PM »
A few gripes...

On a lark, I decided to take some of my favorite adult Sims and see what their college life might have been like... so I sent "Anne", "Julie", and "Steve" to Sim State. I had always intended for Anne and Steve to be together, but it's Julie that keeps giving me fits... after they graduate I'd like Julie to become involved with Benjamin Long, so I made one of her turnons blond hair... but she keeps falling for all the blond guys in the dorm! Am I just going to have to set her relationship with those guys to "Friend Zone"? (And it's not just the blond guys, a redhead even caught her eye!)  :yikes:

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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #105 on: January 17, 2010, 07:42:53 PM »
You can't blame ACR for that - it's normal if you set certain turn-ons for all sims that fit the profile being included.
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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #106 on: January 18, 2010, 04:41:52 AM »

...after they graduate I'd like Julie to become involved with Benjamin Long, so I made one of her turnons blond hair... but she keeps falling for all the blond guys in the dorm! Am I just going to have to set her relationship with those guys to "Friend Zone"? (And it's not just the blond guys, a redhead even caught her eye!)  :yikes:

Can you blame her? She is not exactly looking forward to a fairy tale prince.

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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #107 on: January 18, 2010, 05:20:10 AM »
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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #108 on: January 18, 2010, 05:43:13 AM »
No, more like a 'fairy' with a 'royal chimney'! :cheese:

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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #109 on: January 18, 2010, 05:59:42 AM »
A gnome.....
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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #110 on: January 18, 2010, 06:09:33 AM »
Like all good parents we would like our children to end up with *our* ideal mate. However, Sims definitely have a mind of their own when it comes to match making.  :wink:
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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #111 on: January 18, 2010, 06:27:24 AM »
True.  In this PV (on my laptop) I revived Skip in SimPE and moved him in to help with rearing his family and encouraging a bit of activity before Dustin went to college... Brandi ignored him.  Don kept walking by, and she would leave whatever she was doing to greet him, and the full ACR bit happened despite at the time having no bolts for him.... I gave them a helping hand by changing turn-ons a bit, but no more.  Don even had a fight with Nina over her.  Went to Don's house, and Brandi was definitely his *One*, and despite being set to dynamic, this scarcely changed at all, so in the end I had him propose to her - haven't yet installed the new ACR in this hood, as I hadn't played it for a while and forgot. Unfortunately, unless I can get some elixir to Brandi soon, she's destined to grow old long before Don does.
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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #112 on: January 18, 2010, 02:05:54 PM »
 :omg: This does not bode well for my group marriage family....

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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #113 on: January 18, 2010, 03:04:20 PM »
A few gripes...

On a lark, I decided to take some of my favorite adult Sims and see what their college life might have been like... so I sent "Anne", "Julie", and "Steve" to Sim State. I had always intended for Anne and Steve to be together, but it's Julie that keeps giving me fits... after they graduate I'd like Julie to become involved with Benjamin Long, so I made one of her turnons blond hair... but she keeps falling for all the blond guys in the dorm! Am I just going to have to set her relationship with those guys to "Friend Zone"? (And it's not just the blond guys, a redhead even caught her eye!)  :yikes:

If you want that level of control, isn't using ACR kind of counterproductive?

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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #114 on: January 18, 2010, 05:42:06 PM »
You'd think so, huh? And you're right, in a way.

I'm a control freak; I hardly ever give my sims autonomy. But with ACR, I play a different game than without it. Before ACR, my Sims' lives were all business. ACR added something that 'forces' me to keep them more active on a 'social' level as well. Yeah, it's kind of counterproductive, but maybe you could read that as a 'challenge' in stead ;)

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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #115 on: January 19, 2010, 08:08:38 AM »

heh, ACR is worth having just for the ability to click on them and tell them to go woohoo!  I was recently reminded of this when I was setting up a story scene.
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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #116 on: January 19, 2010, 11:36:22 AM »
It's also useful as a guide to which sims really, really can't live without each other!
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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #117 on: January 19, 2010, 12:50:22 PM »

heh, ACR is worth having just for the ability to click on them and tell them to go woohoo!  I was recently reminded of this when I was setting up a story scene.

This is what gets me about the girl - Lana - I posted in the cute sim topic. Apart from the first time she never initiated it the few times it happened (Steve, Taz and a townie teenager) and never woohooed with the boy(s) she likes the most. But whenever I commanded her - and only then! - she tries for a baby. Over time I developed this idea that she knows she can't control herself in the situation and rather holds back. On her own she will not go any further than making out.

There is another strategy which my sims have developed to "protect" themselves from ACR autonomy. It happened so often that I can not really believe that it is accidental. Sometimes, when they come across a sim who is very attractive to them (but connected in a way which could cause complications) rather nice and relaxed sims who usually never do this suddenly start arguments or insult the attractive sim and may carry on with this behaviour for the entire evening. It is like they intentionally try to create a negative relationship to prevent a romance.


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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #118 on: January 19, 2010, 02:08:57 PM »
If that's so, I think I'd add them to Friend Zone and see if they will then at least become friends.
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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #119 on: January 19, 2010, 03:04:46 PM »

doren, that is so cool!  :lol: 
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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #120 on: January 19, 2010, 05:07:22 PM »
heh, ACR is worth having just for the ability to click on them and tell them to go woohoo!  I was recently reminded of this when I was setting up a story scene.

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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #121 on: January 20, 2010, 06:30:13 PM »
I'm feeling particularly stupid tonight-does this version run with all games or just the last EP's?
I ask that because the previous beta version was meant for the later games, and I didn't bother to download it.
I have all ep's up to Seasons (sans Pets).
Thanks for the reply-I'll download it in heartbeat if it does work with all the eps!

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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #122 on: January 20, 2010, 10:09:43 PM »
Since TJ hasn't said it will work with anything prior to FT, which is what was the case for ACR2 originally, I'd say you would need FT, maybe even AL.
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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #123 on: January 31, 2010, 07:27:40 PM »

Ok, when I played last night, I had sims freeze in the hot tub as reported by others before. From what Trif tells me, that can happen even without ACR.  :hmm:

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I also seem to be having a problem with getting the 'token stats pop up' to show up for a few sims. I'm not sure how to fix that. They seem fine in all other ways though and can still do autonomous ACR actions.

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The annoying issue I noticed soon after putting in 5a (and ever since then) but noticed even more last night, is unmarried TFB "allowed" (via hood and/or sim settings) does not appear to be working. The only sims who will TFB are my married couples & then only with their spouse.  :impatient:  This issue has me very tempted to return to using version 4a.

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Oh, I also had a Romance sim whos 'committed score' got stuck at 140 for quite a while. I thought I should mention it. I think it got stuck after I gave him the FT Romance Benefits, which upped his bolts with his wife from none to two. He is ok now, it finally dropped back down to the 50s and last I checked it was a 2. His marriage is now on the rocks since last night he decided not to let his pregnant wife's presence stop him from having his fun with a teen slut. His wife is Not happy with him. :giggle:

 
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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #124 on: February 01, 2010, 12:47:53 AM »
Get her Mrs. Crumplebottom's handbag and turn her loose on him! :giggle:  (Or if she's really, really angry, there's Paladin's throwing axes!)
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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #125 on: February 01, 2010, 12:49:57 AM »

The annoying issue I noticed soon after putting in 5a (and ever since then) but noticed even more last night, is unmarried TFB "allowed" (via hood and/or sim settings) does not appear to be working. The only sims who will TFB are my married couples & then only with their spouse.  :impatient:  This issue has me very tempted to return to using version 4a.

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I'm having the opposite problem. I wanted one of my single/unattached sims to be able to TFB without benefit of marriage, but, since i had the hoodwide setting on "unmarried TFB not allowed" it wouldn't allow him to TFB even with his individual setting at "unmarried TFB allowed". I understand the hood setting takes precedent. So, I had to change the hood setting to "unmarried TFB allowed" and kept his on "unmarried TFB allowed".

However, all my unmarried are now TFB'ing, so I've had to run around and change their setting to "cannot get pregnant" or I'd have a population explosion and there's just not enough room for new spawns at the moment.

I did have one couple that were newlyweds, who woohoo'd 3 times before they decided to TFB and then it took 2 more woohoo's until they got lucky.

Maybe TJ just put in some evil sadorandomness....  :rolleyes:

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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #126 on: February 01, 2010, 02:27:03 AM »

Ok, when I played last night, I had sims freeze in the hot tub as reported by others before. From what Trif tells me, that can happen even without ACR.  :hmm:

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.. :impatient:  This issue has me very tempted to return to using version 4a.

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I returned to the old ACR version after I last reported my jealousy issue. When I continued to play my game I sent Victor on a date with his girlfriend and had him propose engagement. And then they got stuck in the hot tub and I realised that I had forgotten to enable testing cheats...
They were permanently stuck and nothing I tried could get them out of the tub, so in the end I had to exit the lot without saving and replay the whole date. That's when I removed the new version because getting stuck in the hot tub was not a random occurrence, it always happened (and it would have messed up the second date since they ended it in the hot tub again).
I would like to be sure that sims who are set to faithful remain that way and I like the changed settings for the sofa but overall I am happier with the previous version.

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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #127 on: February 01, 2010, 02:38:12 AM »
I almost never use the ordinary hot tubs.  I think either the game itself or TJ coded the love tubs so they almost never attract non-woohooing sims, and ACR kicks them out once they've finished.  I have to spend those aspiration points on something, and with Pes's asprechargefix, I don't have to keep replacing them.
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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #128 on: February 01, 2010, 02:44:58 AM »
Well, I finally had a unmarried sim TFB ...probably because I reported it as not working!  :P


doren, I like the changed settings for the sofa too but I think I will also return to 4a. I had the hot tub freeze problem happening with two couples and had to force error/reset them and they kept trying & freezing. I finally left that community lot and went to one without hot tubs. When I played last night/early this morning, I didn't dare visit any of my community lots with hot tubs.

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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #129 on: February 01, 2010, 09:56:03 AM »
I also have the problem of sims getting stuck in hot tubs. They seem to get stuck at the cuddling stage and I have to force an error to get them out. It happens whether I direct them to the tub or they go autonomously.

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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #130 on: February 01, 2010, 10:21:48 AM »
All hot tubs, or the buyables and not the love tub?
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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #131 on: February 01, 2010, 01:04:05 PM »
All hot tubs.
I just ran HCDU and the only conflicts are the expected inteen with inteen.

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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #132 on: February 01, 2010, 01:52:17 PM »
Just wondered.... think I'll hold off installing the new ACR until TJ looks into it, and hopefully finds out what's causing it to happen.
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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #133 on: February 03, 2010, 03:05:55 AM »
Sorry to be a dunce - I'm not used to using hacks - do I need to install a previous ACR to get it to work or just install one of the newest ones? I've only just got the Sims 2 plus all EPs other than Pets.

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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #134 on: February 03, 2010, 04:04:44 AM »
You only install one version.  This thread is about testing the new Beta, so if you are new to using mods, you would be far better getting the latest version of ACR4, which has been pretty well tested already.  TJ's Apartment Life mods are here:

http://www.simbology.com/mods/index.php?dir=al/&sort=date&order=desc 

Make sure to download the documentation for ACR, it contains a lot of useful information.
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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #135 on: February 03, 2010, 07:41:43 AM »
Thank you, I shall do this.

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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #136 on: February 03, 2010, 07:55:42 AM »
I don't think you should find any problems, but if you intend to start using mods, like most of us here, in a BIG WAY, I'd suggest you get the Hack Conflict Detection Utility from www.simwardrobe.com (Sims2\Programs) and run it whenever you install some new mods.  Just unzip it into your Program files and send a shortcut from the third file (looks like a screen) to your desktop.
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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #137 on: February 04, 2010, 10:29:46 PM »
nina made a booty call to don tonight at her apartment while i wasn't watching her. she lured him to the hot tub out back. they woohooed and she bade him good-bye right before the carpool came. it seems to be working for me in that regard. unfortunately opal and marcel are having trouble carrying on their fruitfull affair. neither one will accept anything higher than makeout from the other. they are in love with each other and their one sims with two bolts each, neither are in love with their spouses. not that that's new information.
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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #138 on: February 04, 2010, 11:42:03 PM »
I have had more instances of the hot tub cuddle getting stuck then of successfully woohooing but an occasional woohoo does seem to make it.  I don't remember if the successful one was on the same lot as the stuck ones, will try to keep track next time I have a lot or visit a lot with a hot tub.

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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #139 on: February 05, 2010, 01:52:55 AM »

When I posted my hot tub issue before, I had had one successful hot tub woohoo and then had the trouble with the two couples freezing (I had stayed on the lot after the successful one).
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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #140 on: February 05, 2010, 02:05:33 AM »
I wonder if resetting the hot tub after the first woohoo would solve the problem?
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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #141 on: February 05, 2010, 03:59:22 AM »
unfortunately opal and marcel are having trouble carrying on their fruitfull affair. neither one will accept anything higher than makeout from the other. they are in love with each other and their one sims with two bolts each, neither are in love with their spouses. not that that's new information.

Opal Contrary and Marcel Jocque? They really like each other in my game too (they have three bolts). The difference is that mine truly love their spouses.

I wonder if woohooing in the hot tubs works successfully if no interaction (kissing etc.) precedes it. I was going to post in that respect the other day but wasn't sure if I had seen it with the old or the new version.

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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #142 on: February 21, 2010, 02:15:08 PM »
                            TEENS WILL NOT AUTO WOOHOO
i have all EP & SP
delete group & accessory cache
fresh install of both Inteen and ACR 5a (no other mods)
                Global switches
auto engag., break-up and gender are disabled
all others are enabled
                 lot setting
brothel
                sim setting
autonomy  adults  2
                teens 4
pregnancy  unmarried TFB is allowed
cheating    all allowed

both adults woohoo all day long
teens (grils) call over BF (there 1 sim) 98/98 BFF (they have there frist kiss and woohoo with each other)
all they will do is some flrits and make out and the rest of the time gives each other noogies, play red hands or rock paper. or they will go to the adults to tickle and play redhands
teens have -24 timers been that way for 1 sim week
will not call for booty call
will not auto woohoo

any one els have this problem
                                 "edit"
yes i went in and put adjuster on every lot befor i started to play

and on a new lot the 2 teens had the frist ACR kiss and 30 sims min later they did ACR frist woohoo
and now when (boy) call over his GF they will do what seems like low flrits only then they do the red-hands and rock - paper
for 2 days and then they finally had woohoo while the adults have 20 -30 woohoo a day .
will keep testing

feb 24   edit
yes ancienthighway fun and social play a part in it
the adults and teen have the same settings and fun and social are maxed out
adults woohoo all day long. teens will not woohoo after there frist time. i did have 1 set of teens woohoo 2 days later but never again
and no other teens have woohoo after there frist time
all the teens want to do is play redhands, rock paper and noogie each other about 10 times each then they do 1 or 2 low flrits then back to redhands ect.
1 teen did booty call for her frist time woohoo and never did woohoo again (that was the day she age up to teen) now she is adult and woohoo all day long
so i will go back to 4a
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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #143 on: February 21, 2010, 02:46:44 PM »
The timer set at -24 doesn't guarantee a booty call.  Fun and Social play into the decision also.  Same with auto woohoo.

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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #144 on: February 21, 2010, 02:55:33 PM »
Is there an adjuster on on the lot?

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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #145 on: February 21, 2010, 03:11:50 PM »
 :hug: Spring is coming - hope your medical issues get better with warmer weather.  We're a patient lot and you are more important than ACR. 

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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #146 on: February 21, 2010, 03:22:56 PM »
TJ, if you need someone to test what you fix before putting it out for everyone, I'd be glad to help.

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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #147 on: February 21, 2010, 04:41:43 PM »
 And here we all thought it was the housework keeping you away..! Hope you get better, TJ.

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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #148 on: February 21, 2010, 05:31:21 PM »
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Re: ACR Version 2 - Beta 5a is ready...as it's going to get ;)
« Reply #149 on: February 21, 2010, 07:01:58 PM »

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