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Ideal Family Size
« on: May 21, 2009, 09:36:12 PM »
Is there a way to randomize this setting that I am missing?
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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2009, 06:39:12 AM »
Not currently. I was going to add it but couldn't decide how I wanted to do it. I straight randomizer would be easy but I'm thinking it really needs to be something smarter than that.
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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2009, 04:36:21 AM »
Please add another vote for randomising this, in case that helps your thinking processes. (And of course, good luck with the house painting.)

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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2009, 07:22:44 AM »
Randomizing could be really fun... especially if you have a Sims that gets a number that goes against their inclinations.  X)   House painting first though. 

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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2009, 07:26:59 AM »
My romance sims are usually left by me at -1, but that doesn't seem to stop them having twins right, left and centre! :giggle:
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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2009, 08:29:19 AM »
*tries to image what a -1 child looks like & decides that it must look a lot like the .5 child who is always talked about in the 2.5 average number of children in a "typical" American family*

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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2009, 08:37:35 AM »
In S3 the -1 could be a ghost child, but not in 2.  I've always wondered who gets those .5 children in the statistics.   :lol:

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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2009, 09:02:47 AM »
And which .5 do they get, one wonders?  the half that you feed or the half that you change.....
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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2009, 09:19:16 AM »
My thoughts exactly.  Of course in lucky individuals it would be the left or right side.  They'd still have to do both.  :rofl:

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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2009, 09:20:57 AM »
The mind boggles..... :omg:
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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2009, 05:31:00 PM »
Sorry to rez this but I have a question regarding Ideal Family, and rather than start a new thread I thought I'd just tack onto this one.

I recently installed ACR2 (today in fact :blush: ) and noticed an issue with my neighborhood base breeding family.

I've got 2 sets of husbands/wives and their various children (currently 6 atm), and said parents have their ideal family numbers set to 12. Now one set, we'll call them h/w1 are spitting out children almost everytime they woohoo (she's currently pregnant again in fact); however h/w2 had 3 children and now they can't seem to get pregnant no matter how many times they try. I checked both their token stats and for some reason it says "Get Pregnant 0 (0=no), and their individual settings are set up with high risk, high try, birth control is turned off, etc.

With ACR 1 this wasn't a problem but now it seems to be.

I have AH's Lotfullofsims and have been running households as large as 24 so I don't think household limit is the problem, and especially since h/w1 are having no problems getting pregnant.

Any advice would be appreciated. Maybe I'm overlooking something.  :hmm:
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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2009, 06:01:42 PM »
Are they married?  If not, have you enabled pregnancy for them?
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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2009, 06:04:40 PM »
Sorry, I thought the husband/wife thing would have tipped you off to their marital status  :wink: . Yes they are married and yes, everything has been enabled for them - even unmarried tfb.
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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2009, 07:24:28 PM »
Is the wife in/near "menopause," the 3 days before elderhood?  Try some elixir to age her down a little.

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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2009, 11:55:49 PM »
Sorry, SS, just that sometimes people use the term *husbands/wives* just to indicate they are couples.... I'd agree with Miros, then, that the sim who has 0 must be near elderhood.   I think you basically have to age them down with Elixir, I know I found it the only foolproof method.  (If you aged them down some other way, then I rather think you still need to age them down further with Elixir.)
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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2009, 05:10:01 AM »
No, both couples are the same age. I made them at the same time and they are fairly new, around 26 days old. I usually keep my breeder families young and am constantly refreshing their ages.

No probs ZZ about the confusion.  :wink:

Eta: What is confusing me more than her not getting pregnant is the settings on ACR2 . Why can't I change their "get Pregnant" from 0?
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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2009, 05:13:10 AM »
How many days old does ACR say she is (on the token stats dialog)? The only reason I can see for the 0 pregnancy odds would be if the game is saying she's older than she really is.
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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2009, 05:39:08 AM »
Have you played her with Aging Off?  I'm just wondering whether the game has added those days into the calculation....

You could try aging her down to teen with the blender, and then up again.
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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2009, 07:56:35 AM »
Back to the original topic of randomizing the ideal family size.. I have a few ideas, though not being a modder I have no idea how feasible they are. I was thinking that a sim's ideal family size could be based on how many siblings they had and their relationship with those siblings growing up. For example a sim growing up with 5 siblings all of which they got along with would be more inclined to want a large family, as apposed to the sim who grew up with any number of siblings and didn't get along with them. Then you could also factor in their aspirations (main and secondary) of course. Family sims being the most likely to want a large family and the others could be assigned random percentages or something.

Of course I have no idea if those factors could even be turned into a percentage based on the information the game contains, I just figured I'd throw in my 2 cents.

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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2009, 10:09:40 AM »
ACR shows her as 28 days old and I misspoke, it's "Preg Allowed? 0."

And, no ZZ, I haven't played her with aging off. I usually just use the Blender to age them down if need be.



Edit: I think I found her problem. I swapped around the switch instructions ingame "If the setting is an ON/OFF switch of some sort, it will always show what is currently set, not what you would be switching to" for her Pregnancy Allowed and have changed it. Now it's reading Preg Allowed? 1." So we'll see if she gets pregnant. So far, after three tries it's still a no go.

Frackin user error.  :pissed:
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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2010, 01:34:15 AM »
What heck does that have to do with anything - SPAM  :pissed:

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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2010, 02:44:42 AM »
Definitely!
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« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2010, 04:41:20 AM »

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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2010, 07:35:57 AM »
I missed it  :unsure:

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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2010, 07:43:21 AM »
I missed it  :unsure:

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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #25 on: January 07, 2010, 08:07:05 AM »
It wasn't anything good. Just someone posting the same comment over and over with a link to some business networking site or something.

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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #26 on: January 07, 2010, 08:59:13 AM »
It was a real nuisance - as fast as I was reporting it, more was appearing in other threads!  Personally, I think spammers should be made to eat spam sandwiches for the rest of their lives!
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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #27 on: January 07, 2010, 09:03:12 AM »
It was a real nuisance - as fast as I was reporting it, more was appearing in other threads!  Personally, I think spammers should be made to eat spam sandwiches for the rest of their lives!

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Wow. That's hard core!

Talk about cruel & unusual punishment...or maybe more like letting the punishment fit the crime!  :wink:
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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #29 on: January 07, 2010, 09:15:55 AM »
 :lol: @ ZZ's links!

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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #30 on: January 07, 2010, 09:17:50 AM »
I thought, that was a judge who would get on well with Judge Judy!
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« Reply #31 on: January 07, 2010, 04:47:03 PM »
I missed it  :unsure:

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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #32 on: January 07, 2010, 04:52:33 PM »
There needs to be a jealousy smiley, it's the only appropriate reply.  :wink:
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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #33 on: January 07, 2010, 08:24:06 PM »
De-railing the de-railment of the thread:

How do you even set the Ideal Family Size? X) I can't seem to find it...
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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #34 on: January 07, 2010, 09:08:52 PM »
Thinking it was under the pregnancy options for individual sims.

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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #35 on: January 08, 2010, 04:03:04 AM »
Yes, it's there, and the mother's ideal will normally take precedence over the father's.
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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #36 on: January 08, 2010, 04:28:59 AM »
If I remember correctly it was a weighted average 1:5 or 1:4 in favour of the mother's setting and only the children the mother already has are taken into account. So if you have a male sim with a ideal family size of one child who has already fathered several children with other women and he meets a woman with no children and an ideal family size of, say, two children, it is very likely that they will try for a baby.

I am not sure if it works perfectly when it comes to the big numbers. I is possible that they stop trying when the number of sims in a household exceeds the game limit, although I can have more than 8 sims in a family due to the LFOS hack. I have a few couples which are close to fulfill the 10 babies want and I don't see them trying although the ideal family size is set to 10. Maybe they would try eventually but usually they get caught by risky woohoo before.

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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #37 on: January 08, 2010, 06:08:01 AM »
Yes, it's there, and the mother's ideal will normally take precedence over the father's.

Curious about what the Ideal Family Size feature considers to be a "family". Does it take into account every offspring a Sim produces or just the ones in the current relationship? Like can a guy who's already achieved his *ideal* offspring count via his ex-wife get married to wife number 2 (who as aspirations of her own) & still *remember* that he has already reached his ideal offspring *limit*, even though the kids don't live with him anymore?
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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #38 on: January 08, 2010, 06:12:57 AM »
I'd say yes, if the memories are there, they would be remembered...
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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #39 on: January 08, 2010, 06:15:59 AM »
If I understood the documentation correctly, the guy's children from a previous marriage would not be taken into consideration. Neither would alien offspring, since they're not a child of both the parents. Heck, even the woman's children from a possible previous relationship wouldn't count, even if they still lived with new family.

But again, that's only if I understood correctly.

@ZZ: they would be remembered as being his offspring, yes. But they would not count versus his ideal family size in the new relationship.
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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #40 on: January 08, 2010, 06:19:34 AM »
True, but that would mean that if you set Don Lothario's ideal family size to 10, then every time he had a new relationship......... the mind boggles!
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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #41 on: January 08, 2010, 06:30:15 AM »
The mind tends to do that, indeed ;) But then, you're not forced to give him a chance to get there... His wife would still have a say in it, too ;)

Also, what I gathered is that at the 4:1 ratio, if Don's partner had her limit set to 2 children, together they wouldn't be likely to TFB after 3, maybe 4, kids. (4 times 2, plus 10, divide by 5)
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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #42 on: January 08, 2010, 06:41:17 AM »
Okay, well that's scary.

I really don't want my hoods to become rabbit farms! Certain Sims/families yes, but never an entire hood.

That's the *trouble* with me & ACR. I keep finding a *yikes* thing that scares me away from installing it, even though I really really want many of the things it offers.
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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #43 on: January 08, 2010, 07:05:18 AM »
I thought the mother's children are taken into account no matter who the father is?

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A weighted average of Mom & potential dad’s settings (if they have one) is calculated (4:1 or 4 times mom + dad / 5) and mom’s live kid’s only are counted (minus aliens, same as existing kid penalty) to determine the bonus or penalty which is +/-20 per kid over or under the ideal.
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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #44 on: January 08, 2010, 07:26:38 AM »
You're right, mom's kids may count for some bonus or penalty. They're not simply deducted from the weighted 'average', though. So if, in above example, the weighted result would be like 4, and the mom already had 3 kids in another relationship, that would not necessarily mean they will have only one... Their actual total might be less than 4, though.

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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #45 on: January 08, 2010, 07:42:40 AM »
Yes, that's right. Quoting twojeffs from the closed Beta Thread:

I#K uses the same count as existing kids. Only the 'mother's' kids are counted. So, if the vampire is going to be the mother then all his/her living kids will be counted. Yes, upping the number will help if you want them to have more kids but as was mentioned here the ideal # is only an influence, it is not a hard and fast limit.

I#K: I'm tweaking that for better effect. I'll explain it better in the docs for the next version. For now:  except that all kids are counted even if they don't live at home. My mom still has two kids even though we've been gone for years.


ZZ: If you set the ideal number of children for Don Lothario to 10 you would probably want him to have lots and lots of children. Ultimately his settings are less important though, because it depends more on the women he gets involved with and how many children they want. After using it for a while I see the advantage of only the mother's children being counted, because those guys who "get around" a bit will not try to the same extent with every woman.

ZW: It is up to you if you want them to breed like rabbits or not. You can always set them to want only one child or leave this setting alone alltogether (in which case they try according to aspiration I think).

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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #46 on: January 08, 2010, 09:09:33 AM »
ZW: It is up to you if you want them to breed like rabbits or not. You can always set them to want only one child or leave this setting alone alltogether (in which case they try according to aspiration I think).

I know that's the idea but it seems every time I think that I stumble across another post from someone who claims to have set such-and-such an option to *No* yet it still keeps happening, which is horribly worrisome to an uber-control freak like me!

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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #47 on: January 08, 2010, 09:13:52 AM »
If worse comes to worse, ACR has an option for your sims to take a morning after pill.
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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #48 on: January 08, 2010, 09:36:46 AM »
Gads, it sucks being a control-freak at times!  :P

If even *I* can do it, I'm sure a Wolf like yourself can do it, too. Besides, a real control freak keeps their sims so busy, they don't have time to cause any mischief. :wink:

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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #49 on: January 08, 2010, 01:22:27 PM »
So true, BO! Control freak here also. I keep my sims pretty busy most of the time skillinating, or some other form of staying out of trouble. However, there are times I do have to *make* myself just let them be Sims.  :nervous:
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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #50 on: January 08, 2010, 02:32:17 PM »
 :biglaugh:

I know the feeling.

Believe it or not, I actually have (finally) decided to bite the bullet & install ACR once I get my game back up & officially running. It's going to take me a bit (RL stuff combined with my incredibly *detailed* install/set up process) but I think in the end I'm going to enjoy it to much not to install it.

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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #51 on: January 08, 2010, 02:40:02 PM »
I think you'll actually have fun with it, ZW. It definitely adds another layer to the game.  :wink:
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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #52 on: January 08, 2010, 03:32:25 PM »

ZW, you can also set sims to "can not get pregnant" when you feel they have enough kids already and don't need more. 
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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #53 on: January 08, 2010, 03:49:05 PM »
That's good to know!

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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #54 on: January 08, 2010, 08:04:14 PM »
With the new version you can also set how many babies the couple would be happy with (or how far to test your limits  :wink: ).
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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #55 on: September 19, 2012, 06:46:47 PM »
I didn't see anything in the Rules forbidding thread necromancy, and this does seem like the most logical place to post this, so I hope it's okay? 

I read this entire thread and am surprised to not be seeing talk of the problem I'm having with Ideal Number of Kids.  In my game, sims with the default setting of -1 are Trying for Baby regularly, even when they already have one or two kids.  Is this a known issue?

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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #56 on: September 19, 2012, 06:55:03 PM »
I think some of it has to do with aspiration.  Also, if one sim has -1 and another has something higher, that might cause the issue, too.  But I'm no expert on that.

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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #57 on: September 19, 2012, 07:33:07 PM »
That's the thing: Both parents/parents-to-be in all these cases (several) are at -1, because I didn't change the default setting.  They're not all family sims either, and I'm feeling like the whole idea of setting an ideal family size is pointless, if sims aren't going to pay any attention to it anyway.   :confused: 

I think I've finally noticed the obvious solution, though, and that's to put them on birth control?  That way, there's still the possibility of a surprise pregnancy due to risky woohoo, but they'll stop actively trying for babies, right? 

Now to play around with how to adjust those risky woohoo pregnancy odds...   :smile:




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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #58 on: September 19, 2012, 07:51:00 PM »
I think the default setting is pretty meaningless, and you need to actually set the limit to whatever limit you want.  You can also stop the pop-up for Try for Baby somewhere, I think.  Bear in mind, it's the parent who gives birth who has the final say, for example, a family sim husband may want ten kids, but if his fortune sim wife is happy with just two, that's what he will have to settle for, unless he's lucky with risky woohoo.... or gets abducted.
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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #59 on: September 19, 2012, 08:06:59 PM »
Thanks for the info about who gets the final say.  So far, I've just had couples agree on ideal family size together, so both get the same number, but it might be interesting to stir up a bit of conflict in some couples.   

If the default setting is meaningless, that would certainly explain things.   :wink:

Regarding the TFB dialog box: Disabling it doesn't mean they won't be trying, does it?  Just that I won't know about it?  Does ACR include "silent pregnancy", or is that a separate mod somewhere?

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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #60 on: September 19, 2012, 09:38:06 PM »
Disabling the pop up doesn't stop them trying, you just don't know if they're trying. 

Silent pregnancy is one of the flavor packs for the Inteenimator.
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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #61 on: September 20, 2012, 02:11:24 AM »
-1 means that the setting is disabled. If you want them not to try for babies then set their ideal number to 0.
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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #62 on: September 20, 2012, 06:23:32 AM »
We indeed have no written rules on necromancy. In fact, if the topic that you want to discuss already has a thread here, we PREFER that you resurrect that thread. That way, all the stuff on that topic stays together, making the search easier for others.
 

Simsfreq is right. The setting -1 for I#K is actually a setting that (in theory) allows sims to make their own decision based on aspiration.  In practice, it just allows them to breed like bunnies. It's not really an issue or bug; TJ intended it this way. The ACR documentation should contain a paragraph or note about this.

If I'm not mistaken, the mother's I#K setting governs 80% of the final decision. So if mother wants 2 children, and father wants 10, the game will settle for (4x2+10)/5 = 3.6 kids. So they'll most likely have 3 or 4 kids before they actually stop trying. Children that either the father or the mother has with anyone else, are NOT counted in the decision, though. Only the children that they really had *together*, are considered.
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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #63 on: September 20, 2012, 07:27:44 AM »
I got most of that from the docs, but not the part about what -1 means.  CLARITY - YAY!   

Thank you all so much!   :love:  I lurve ACR, and feel tons better not to be at odds with it, now that I understand this aspect better.   

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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #64 on: September 20, 2012, 07:19:09 PM »
Of all the features for ACR, I never thought that the 'IFS" was actually a 'working' part of ACR-more like reminder sticky, or something. Glad to know it actually works, if you do set it up like it's supposed to be. Now I might actually start setting it for 2 children..for each couple, or maybe each person.

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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #65 on: September 20, 2012, 07:54:46 PM »
I *think* TJ's intention was for the system to automatically set up the I#K for each sim according to aspiration and/or personality (although I can't be sure of that). A fact is that such a system was never set up. One *does* have to do such oneself. But then it *does* indeed actually work, mostly. Some sims may defy their settings, if these settings don't fit their personality. Like family sims who may sometimes TFB, even if they have already exceeded their I#K.

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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #66 on: September 20, 2012, 08:12:42 PM »
And of course it doesn't take into account Risky Woohoo, which is why so many of my Romance sims are more productive than my family sims....
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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #67 on: September 21, 2012, 12:14:57 AM »
One of the blogs which documents a whole hood and method of playstyle has a formula which I mostly adopted (with a few tweaks), you take the sim's amount of playful points and divide by 2 for family sims, 3 for knowledge/popularity/cheese and 4 for romance/pleasure/fortune. It's a good rule of thumb to give a range of ideal sizes without too much thought :)
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« Reply #68 on: September 21, 2012, 03:03:53 AM »
I've tried to use the Apple Valley style of computing families, which is:
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Since I assign aspirations based on personality, I had to look to see if any aspirations were based on high outgoing or nice score.
Since popularity is mostly outgoing, I assigned it a higher Aspiration ACR rank,  also since knowledge had to be shy (low outgoing), I gave it a smaller Aspiration ACR rank so that my knowledge sims would at least desire some children. As a result, I coded each Aspiration ACR rank as follows:

family= 1
knowledge= 2
fortune= 3
popularity= 4
pleasure= 5
romance= 6

Looking at personality, I decided that the more outgoing a sim was, then the more likely they would like to have more sims in their family.
Also since niceness was a requirement for the family aspiration in my hood, I decided that the nicer a sim,  the more children they would like to have. As a result I developed a personality dependent score as follows:

Outgoing + ( 0.5 * Nice )

And the final ideal family size formula as follows:

Outgoing + ( 0.5 * Nice ) / Aspiration ACR Rank = Ideal Family Size

But I think I'll use your formula instead-the math for figuring out IFS from Apple Valley is good, but unnecessarily complicated, I think.

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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #69 on: September 21, 2012, 04:13:20 AM »
MaryH, I think simsfreq was talking about family size, not aspiration.

Me, I prefer a quick click without a lot of thought.... and for aspiration, in my game, anything goes.
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« Reply #70 on: September 21, 2012, 08:45:37 AM »
To figure out Ideal Family Size for my sims I rolla D10 (ten sided dice) for Family sims and than add 2 to whatever it rolls.  For all other sims, I roll a D6.

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« Reply #71 on: September 22, 2012, 08:18:55 AM »
I like that system.

For people who don't have d10s, try using 2 regular dice (aka d6).

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« Reply #72 on: September 22, 2012, 09:33:04 AM »
Should also note that sims with family as a secondary get a plus two to their roll, but still with a d6.  Only primary family sims get the D10.  I've been debating weather or not Romance sims (who generally don't want kids) should get a d4 roll instead... I have one neighborhood where I'm trying that out and so far, its working alright.  Less kids.

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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #73 on: September 22, 2012, 10:23:53 AM »
Odd thing is, I've had elder Romance sims who want grandchildren...
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« Reply #74 on: September 25, 2012, 11:39:41 AM »
That's the one I got the idea from, MaryH :) I couldn't remember which site it was. I decided that playfulness was probably more relevant to parenthood than outgoing, personally. I have a couple of extra things which affect it but mainly I just go with that, it's easy to remember.

I also set their risky pregnancy score by how neat they are - everyone gets 12% minus the number of neat points they have. Because even the most carefully used contraception isn't 100% ;)
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Re: Ideal Family Size
« Reply #75 on: September 25, 2012, 01:21:53 PM »
I think I like just making a quick click without thinking too deeply about it....
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