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Sims 2 Support & Chat => Ultimate Collection - Help and Support => Topic started by: mark93 on July 15, 2014, 01:28:48 PM

Title: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: mark93 on July 15, 2014, 01:28:48 PM
All info here: http://www.modthesims.info/showthread.php?t=528726&c=1&ht=&page=1&pp=25#startcomment
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: BoilingOil on July 15, 2014, 01:45:24 PM
I heard of this from people who recieved a mail from EA/Origin.

The intention is for them to lure all the old TS2 players into installing Origin for continued support, as if support from EA has EVER helped anyone!

But once you have Origin on your system, they can keep stalking you, as they have been proven to do according to this article (http://www.eteknix.com/investigation-started-after-ea-caught-spying-via-origin-client/). And ofcourse, this so-called "ultimate collection" will refuse to work without Origin. And you need to be online as well, I bet.

Next thing you know, the old mods and other custom content is no longer compatible, and nobody is able to update them because some key data is on their server, where only the game itself can access it.

In short, I don't think this is EA being generous. I think it's EA playing their final trump card to reel in what few TS2 players have not yet succumbed to Origin, suckering them into installing that shit at last.

The victims are most probably the ones owning digital download copies of some EPs/SPs. For they will no longer be able to access those, unless they register with Origin and install their spyware.
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: mark93 on July 15, 2014, 02:34:22 PM
The way it sounds to me even if you only have 1 on Origin you will be able to get the complete collection when it comes out latter this month.

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Dear Origin gamer,

Your current version of The Sims 2 will lose technical support on 22 July 2014. We want you to have the most up-to-date version of The Sims 2 in your collection, so you will see a brand new addition to your Origin library: The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection.

This is the most up-to-date version of The Sims 2 and the version that is still supported by Origin. It also features a lot more content than you may already have in your current version ofThe Sims 2.

The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection will appear in your Origin library automatically. You’ll need to download and install it to your computer to play it.

You’re free to continue playing your existing version of The Sims 2, but please note that it is an older edition of the game that will soon lose technical support. To continue receiving support on your progress of The Sims 2 – including Sims characters, houses, etc. — you will need to transfer your save files of The Sims 2 to the Ultimate Edition. To learn more about backing up your data, please visit http://help.ea.com/en/article/backing-up-your-sims-2-files/.

Once you’ve migrated your Sims’ lives to The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection, you can better organize your Origin game library by hiding your previous version of The Sims 2. Click on the tile for The Sims 2 in your Game Library for the option to hide it. If you need additional directions, we’ve got you covered.

Thanks for your continuing passion for The Sims.
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: BoilingOil on July 15, 2014, 04:11:59 PM
Ok, so maybe that's a good thing for some of the people that don't have the entire collection yet. But I don't see what good it would do for anyone who already has all the disks and backups of the complete set of patches.

Anyone who's willing to take that risk, is free to get Origin and register with them for this so-called free *ultimate collection*. But it's not going to change anything for me, and I'll keep warning people to remain utterly sceptical about EA's plans with this. Because the fact still remains that Origin is spyware, which they can use for some unknown - likely nefarious - purpose.
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: Nellas on July 15, 2014, 04:13:19 PM
Hmm, I think this is another one of those cases where I will sit back and wait for more information. I have all the disks for TS2 and have stayed away from Origin. Not sure anything they would offer would make me change my mind on this. That said, I am running a Win 8 machine and if I never have to hassle with the work around to make TS2 work on 8, I might be slightly interested.  :unsure:


ETA: It reads : To continue receiving support on your progress on Sims 2...umm what support are they offering right now?
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: arathea on July 15, 2014, 04:56:43 PM
It looks like the collection will contain bundle packs that are known for having problems with some mods.

http://www.modthesims.info/showpost.php?p=4448009&postcount=8429
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: zephyrzodiac on July 15, 2014, 05:22:38 PM
If they were truly serious about offering support, they would never have closed the Sims 2 site.

It's my guess a lot of the so-called *new* content is stuff that is hidden in the original game and EPs, much of which has been enabled anyway.  I can't imagine they have been paying programmers to make new stuff for TS2!
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: mark93 on July 15, 2014, 05:42:45 PM
To many players have bad feelings on Sims 4 so I think this is a EA work-around on that problem.
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: BoilingOil on July 15, 2014, 07:09:26 PM
*sniffs and snorts, then quickly covers nose with a wet cloth*

Does that fishy EA smell not linger? I seem not to be the only one having reservations... :)
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: BoilingOil on July 15, 2014, 07:48:41 PM
Sorry for the double post, but I thought this would merit an exception.

Following is a small quote from the Peerblock (http://www.peerblock.com/) site.

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PeerBlock lets you control who your computer "talks to" on the Internet.  By selecting appropriate lists of "known bad" computers, you can block communication with advertising or spyware oriented servers, computers monitoring your p2p activities, computers which have been "hacked", even entire countries!  They can't get in to your computer, and your computer won't try to send them anything either.

And best of all, it's free!

If anyone does *still* intend to inflict Origin upon oneself, they might want to check this out. I've heard say that it helps.
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: zephyrzodiac on July 15, 2014, 11:53:00 PM
It's amazing, isn't it, that governments have to specifically pass legislation to allow their security services to collect information about people's internet activity, even though the purpose is to keep us safe from terrorists, paedophiles and organised crime, but companies like EA seem able to get away with it!

Out of interest, BO, would this program, along with a decent AV, mean you could keep your XP computer safe?
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: MaryH on July 16, 2014, 02:38:31 AM
I agree with BO about the "fishy smell" that emanates from this 'generous offer' from EA. I believe that not only are they trying to lure old players back with the offer, they're trying to sell them the new incarnation of the game, and installing that piece of spyware known as Origin all at the same time.

I didn't know my game wasn't going to be 'supported' by Origin any more. It never was, and never will be because I never registered my games with them. Idiots...and that's why I don't have the EADM in my game, nor do I play with it installed.."cough, cough".

I feel sorry for those who actually fall for this scam. EA has absolutely no integrity or morals when it comes to getting their hands on customers, do they?

Thanks for the link to that program..looks interesting.
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: BoilingOil on July 16, 2014, 04:31:10 AM
@Zephyrzodiac: Yes, it looks like burocracy is an excellent way for the government to prevent itself from dealing with criminal behavior.

As for your question: I've seen a screenshot that suggest that the program sees and identifies EVERY incoming and/or outgoing communication from your computer. And it should provide the tools to block each individual one, or whole communities at once PERMANENTLY!
The screenshot showed how Origin was detected very actively trying to communicate. The program stopped all of it. Yes, I think that it might do very well, with or without AV.

The article that I'm talking about, is here at Leefish.nl (http://www.leefish.nl/mybb/showthread.php?tid=5890)

@MaryH: I never registered with EA, let alone Origin, either. And I'm not going to, even if hell freezes over and EA provides the only warm place in the cosmos. I'd rather be cold than stupid!
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: zephyrzodiac on July 16, 2014, 05:25:09 AM
Certainly looks like it would save my XP's from extinction!  And me from the hassle of disconnecting the oldest tower from the network, and replacing XP with W7 on the newer one.

Well, I tried it out, and I can't get through to the BBC website!  Dunno if the program is causing it to be blocked, but I got through to Sainsbury's OK.

It was the program, I had to unblock it!  But why the BBC, and what is it doing that we don't know about.....
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: MaryH on July 16, 2014, 06:30:22 AM
I installed that program, no problems..in fact, it seems to speed up my connections! If it keeps the nasty spying stuff out of my computer, all the more power to it!

I just checked off the basic blockers..and nothing more. Of course I could run an IP detection program, but I don't want to bother to read the results. I'd be afraid of ever connecting again...

And ZZ? I had no problems getting to the BBC's website-I checked it out when I read your post.

I've got not only the new blocking program, but ghostery, No-script and Priv-dog all on this computer. I think those are quite enough to keep my Mabel relatively safe from intrusion, even with XP!

Of course I'm running with scissors, too-no AV running. I've tried to use all of them, and they're all bloat-ware unlimited. Updating became a tedious chore and ate my HD space.

Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: BoilingOil on July 16, 2014, 06:59:31 AM
I've never had any AV running, except maybe once or twice a year for a quick check if my system was still clean. It always was, which means that EITHER I've always used common sense while surfing, OR none of the AV programs I've used were worth the paper you could write their names on.

Since I don't believe that they're all that bad, I must assume that I never got any foul stuff on my system. :) Running with scissors? No, just fast-walking. :lol:
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: mark93 on July 16, 2014, 08:39:49 AM
That's why I like malwarebytes https://www.malwarebytes.org/ the free one for it does not run unless I tell it to.

If it finds anything then I will also run SUPERAntiSpyware http://www.superantispyware.com/ also the free one.

With both of these I have had no problems at all.

I do have AVAST on at all times though.

OK got new info: You do not have to install Origin to be able to get the collection, all you got to do is reg. 1 either Sims 2 or any disk you have and they will give you a code that will show up in origin so you will be able to get the collection at any time you want to.
You will not be able to play until you do have Origin but hey at least if you need it, it will be there.
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: zephyrzodiac on July 16, 2014, 10:07:59 AM
MaryH, it definitely blocked the BBC site - when I checked, it listed every time I tried to go there.  As soon as I checked *Allow HTML* it was fine.

I also run this program from time to time.  http://www.f-secure.com/en/web/home_global/online-scanner
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: Zirconia Wolf on July 17, 2014, 05:54:43 AM
I never registered with EA, let alone Origin, either. And I'm not going to, even if hell freezes over and EA provides the only warm place in the cosmos. I'd rather be cold than stupid!

Sums up my feelings on this whole "Ultimate" Collection farce quite perfectly.
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: arathea on July 17, 2014, 10:03:23 AM
Well, from what I'm reading, lots of people are already downloading/installing the ultimate collection which includes the bundles (Best of Business etc) that are known to have problems with several mods. You might prepare for a wave of "Halp! Why not working?" posts.  :dry:
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: Zirconia Wolf on July 17, 2014, 11:44:40 AM
Quote from: arathea <snip>
You might prepare for a wave of "Halp! Why not working?" posts.

Awesome.

I shall have to dust off my "What part of *this mod only works with the __ EP* is confusing to you?" look of complete lack of sympathy.
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: zephyrzodiac on July 17, 2014, 12:00:36 PM
Well, at least it keeps the site ticking over.
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: Orilon on July 17, 2014, 01:57:12 PM
I don't trust EA so I imagine they have something up their sleeve, but I can't always tell what.

It appears to only be sent to certain Sims 2 owners, because I have not received the invitation for the Ultimate Collection. Although I have the Sims 2 EPs and SPs I want, so I don't really need it.  It sounds like they have several of the combo packs in the collection so I imagine patching will be a pain, and trying to get mods to work with it will be a pain.
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: Zirconia Wolf on July 17, 2014, 02:04:49 PM
I agree- they are definitely up to something, but exactly what I can't tell yet.

It's possible that this is in response to the overall reaction to TS4 (like some people are speculating) & is an effort to try & get us skeptics to try Origin, but I'm not so sure about that because EA hasn't given a sh*t about what anyone has thought about their policies before, so why start now?

I never got an invitation either...but given that I don't have (& will never have) an Orgin account, that might be a factor!  :P
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: Orilon on July 17, 2014, 02:10:50 PM
I do have an Origin account (thanks to the annoying as hell Sims 3 2012 base game that required that I be signed into Origin just to be able to play the game), but I don't have any Sims 2 games registered on it, just the Sims 3 base game.

Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: arathea on July 17, 2014, 03:05:04 PM
That should be the reason why you don't get an invitation for the Ultimate Collection. You only get it for free if you have at least one Sims 2 game registered at Origin. - And that's why I don't get an invitation too.  :P
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: BoilingOil on July 17, 2014, 03:48:46 PM
Same here: they just don't know hat I'm a Sims 2 lover. Hence, they don't offer me Jack. Just as well, too :D
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: Sleepycat on July 17, 2014, 04:14:11 PM
I'm wondering if Origin is required to play this new version.  For TS3, I only installed Origin when I needed it and then un-installed it.   I have 2 copies of the TS2 base game and 2 copies each of all the EPs (1 copy of each of the SPs) so I don't need their new version but I'm curious, specially since they claim it has more in it. 
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: mark93 on July 17, 2014, 04:19:12 PM
No Origin is not needed after you install for it puts a start-up icon on your desk top and it starts up the game with out having to start Origin.

Wow SimPE is supper fast in windows 8.
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: arathea on July 17, 2014, 04:59:44 PM
 :hmm: I'm not sure but I think "more" means that you get the complete game, even if you don't have all EP/SP now.
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: Zirconia Wolf on July 17, 2014, 08:06:25 PM
My instincts say the "more" thing is just like the TS1 Complete Collection (everything in one *convenient* package & not any new content) but I'm not 100% positive about that.

It's vaguely possible they did include some new/unreleased stuff in an effort to attract people...but then if that's true I figure it's just a matter of time before somebody will extract said content & make it available for the rest of us, like has been done with all the pre-order bonus content already.

One thing that does kinda puzzle me though is why a TS2 Complete Collection & not TS3? As far as EA is concerned TS2 was dead long before TS3 was released, so why this "We still care about you guys" dog & pony show all of the sudden? Why not play up to the TS3 crowd - where the majority of TS4 players will undoubtedly come from - instead of the TS2 folks, most of whom have either moved on the TS3 or are die-hard holdouts with no interest in TS3, let alone TS4?
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: BoilingOil on July 17, 2014, 08:54:32 PM
As far as EA is concerned TS2 was dead long before TS3 was released, so why this "We still care about you guys" dog & pony show all of the sudden?

Exactly THAT is what has me suspicious. There must be something fishy below decks, because the 'good' barge Electronic Arts is known to be a pirate ship. It doesn't sail 'just' to be generous!
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: Cyjon on July 17, 2014, 09:25:32 PM
When I first heard about this my reaction was pretty much hysterical laughter that EA thinks people are stupid enough to fall for this scam. Then I saw people are stupid enough to fall for this scam. OK "stupid" is a strong word, but come on, folks, have you not met EA? How many times to they have to screw you over? People over at MTS are having orgasms over this and I'm just baffled why anyone still trusts EA to do anything for anyone.

My other thought is that people are going to wonder why mods stop working. I've said it before and I'll say it again: collections are evil. They have this cobbled together Franken-code that makes it impossible to tell which version of a mod will work, if any.

Finally, I consider crap like Origin and Steam to be just as bad as Securom and won't have that nonsense on my computer. Which is pretty much why I haven't gotten a new game in years. Hard to find ones that don't have draconian DRMs, and I don't pirate.
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: Orilon on July 17, 2014, 10:44:52 PM
I'm getting a bad feeling this is an attempt to "control" people playing Sims 2.   From what I'm seeing, people who have the physical discs of Sims 2 have to uninstall those to be able to install the Ultimate Collection. This part depends on if people can play the game without Origin, but if they can't, EA may take if off Origin later as an attempt to stop people playing Sims 2.

Hopefully people won't get rid of their physical discs.
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: zephyrzodiac on July 17, 2014, 11:39:07 PM
Unfortunately for those that don't get rid of the discs, they would still lose all their neighborhoods and have to start again from scratch.

The only DRM I allow on my machine (once bitten, twice shy, EA) is the very mild one from Big Fish Games.

Heck, I still haven't played AL, and there are a couple of stuff packs I haven't used yet, so I still have things to discover about TS2!
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: MaryH on July 18, 2014, 03:51:06 AM
What got me ticked off is that if you do receive and download this 'collection' you have to uninstall any other games you have on your computer.

That's not kosher to me. Because I think EA is trying to control the S2 players who do not use the original .exe and are instead using a crack, (such as myself...along with a few million others..) and they don't like the idea.

So they invented this thing to keep track of all those people. Fortunately I have all of the EP's and the stuff EA has so generously "offered" does not interest me in the least. I know that some of the collection will not work with any installed mods, and that's a real bad idea. I don't play my game without my mods!

I'll hate to see the threads that will be created on MTS (and here) when people finally do start playing this, and find that their game no longer allows certain mods/hacks. Then they'll see why everyone with any sense did not fall for the candy.

As it is right now, I had to post a rebuttal to an ex-EA employee over at SimsCave who stated that Origin is all good and wonderful. I think it was a classic takedown, and one that is well-deserved on her part. She claimed that she wasn't a "EA fan-girl" but I noted that she used to work for them and that her bias was showing.  She also insulted RYG, and although she has the right to her opinion, I think we were (and still are) correct in our assessment of Origin, and Securom: they're spyware and they're unnecessary.


Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: BoilingOil on July 18, 2014, 03:56:43 AM
At my second home - Leefish, where my mods reside - I'm seeing a heap of people flying into this Origin trap, despite my warnings. I can't wait for the day that Orilon's prediction comes true, just so I can scream at them: See? Told you so!

@MaryH: Is that the truth? You must uninstall the old game when you get the new download? Here see; it begins!
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: MaryH on July 18, 2014, 03:59:33 AM
BO-yeah, that's the truth..you gotta uninstall the games you have on your computer when you install the collection.
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When you get UC in your library, uninstall your current TS2 game before DL'ing. For now, leave it. Also, if you don't get the demo soon, contact Customer Support and tell them that you didn't get it. They'll ask for your code, so give it to them when they ask for it. Then they'll give UC to you.

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Originally Posted by lil bag2
So do I have to uninstall my TS2 and EPs/SPs before I can install this? That'll decide whether or not this is worth the one SP I'm missing :P
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I didn't, and the game froze. I suppose now I have to reinstall the Collection.

EDIT: And it of course doesn't work after a reinstall.
That sucks, and it won't happen to me...but boy, I'm waiting for the day when others find out the horrible truth of the entire BS EA is now pulling.
Read this page..MTS: http://www.modthesims.info/showthread.php?t=528726&c=1&ht=&page=27&pp=25#startcomments
Oh, and this:
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It didn't work on my Windows 8.1 which I'm sad about because it took so long to download and when I tried to play it nothing came up and I really wanted the convenience of playing it on my own laptop however I'm not surprised.

"If I'd only known..."

I can hear the wailing and gnashing of teeth from here..it's not a pretty sound.
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: BoilingOil on July 18, 2014, 04:07:48 AM
OMFG, I can see crap flying around the house! HALP!
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: MaryH on July 18, 2014, 04:10:08 AM
Or as the saying goes:

"You gets what you pays for."

I'm gonna go duck under the nearest bed. It's not gonna be a pretty sight at all! :lol:

Oh, and one last thing about this 'freebie':
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I may be wrong, but I think you can only get the collection for free if you have one of your games registered by July 22nd. After July 22nd the collection will only be available to buy. At least that's what my adviser told me, but none of them seem to be on the same page about this.

Ah, now it makes sense..sort of.
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: Zirconia Wolf on July 18, 2014, 08:13:35 AM
So you gotta get rid of your perfectly functional, already existing TS2 installation in order to use the "Frankenstein Monster" that EA is so generously *giving* away, eh?

I can't even scream "I told you so" because I honestly can't stop laughing!
 :lol:

Quote from: Cyjon <snip>
People over at MTS are having orgasms over this and I'm just baffled why anyone still trusts EA to do anything for anyone.

Holy crap! "Having orgasms" is an understatement! I accidentally stumbled upon that MTS thread a few days ago (I can't navigate that site worth crap, so the only way I ever *find* threads there is by accident) & I thought I had walked into a goddamn orgy! The excitement was so thick - & the excrement so deep - I had only skimmed a couple pages before I got the hell out of there. The last thing I need is an STD on my computer, especially one from EA!
 :eew:

Quote from: Cyjon <snip>
Finally, I consider crap like Origin and Steam to be just as bad as Securom and won't have that nonsense on my computer. Which is pretty much why I haven't gotten a new game in years. Hard to find ones that don't have draconian DRMs, and I don't pirate.

The only new game I have purchased (just this year, actually) was Banished, that truly amazing DRM free city-builder. Other than that single purchase the only other *new* games have been things like Arcanum & Roller Coaster Tycoon 2, etc, (all of which I still have the disks for & just wanted a digital copy as backup) which I bought from GOG. (That's also where I got Banished even though it is also available on Steam because I don't like Steam anymore than any other form of DRM crap.)

Like you I refuse to pirate (unless you are like EA or MTS & consider using no-cd cracks - which I gleefully use - to be "pirating") & I also refuse to let Suckrot or any of its friends anywhere near my computers.
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: BoilingOil on July 18, 2014, 08:38:55 AM
Banished - when my machine returns to the land of the functioning, I will be getting that. From GOG, ofcourse. And maybe I'll get an Arcanum backup as well. Apart from that, I'll be happy just holding on to all I have. But I'm veering off topic here...
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: Orilon on July 18, 2014, 09:31:51 AM
I have the EPs I want, and I uninstalled Pets for a reason (there was no other way to stop obtain pet wants from taking over most Sims want panels).   I also use a cracked .exe and I don't want to be forced to use the original.  I don't pirate (unless you consider using the cracked exe pirating) and legitimately bought all the EPs and SPs I have for Sims 2 and Sims 3. I just use the cracked .exe for Sims 2 because I don't want Securom on my computer.
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: zephyrzodiac on July 18, 2014, 11:04:09 AM
Cyjon, if you play Desiderata from scratch, and probably all new custom games, and ban all critturs with the VC, you should never get a want for a dog or cat.  Birds and womrats do get wants, but they aren't, imho, invasive, and they both have uses, birds for charisma for kids and both for nature enthusiasm and cleaning skills.

I cannot see how a cracked .exe for an EP that you own can legitimately be considered pirating.
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: Zirconia Wolf on July 18, 2014, 01:07:39 PM
IIRC there is even a mod (TwoJeffs or Pescy) that kept the pet wants under control much better. I know because I distinctly remember getting such a mod for that very reason & I almost NEVER see pet wants unless I *force* the issue by making a Sim interact with a stray or similar actions. (On a side note, I think I'm one of the only people over 12 who really enjoys having pets in the game!)

Quote from: zephyrzodiac <snip>
I cannot see how a cracked .exe for an EP that you own can legitimately be considered pirating.

That's always been my stance too, but the powers that be over at MTS (& many other EA-loving sites) see it quite differently. It was funny watching them all freakout when EA stopped supporting that stupid "launcher" thing that came with BV+ & they were all a twitter as to what to do about it! Those of us smart enough to have used no-cd cracks in the first place of course never even noticed a problem.
 :rolleyes:

**** Edited To Add Pet-Mod Link ****

Yep, it was by TwoJeffs! It's called "No Pet Obsession" & I can personally vouch for its usefulness!
http://www.simbology.com/smf/index.php?topic=12.0
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: BoilingOil on July 18, 2014, 01:32:15 PM
On my system, the launcher and the no-cd .exe played nice together. I merely circumvented the launcher eventually, when EA stopped supporting it.
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: Orilon on July 18, 2014, 01:45:59 PM
Even with No Pet Obsession the obtain pet wants took over the Sim want Panels and I had a hard time getting them to go away (Sim cats and dogs drove me nuts. I like the birds and wombats, but the want to obtain a kitten, obtain a puppy, obtain a pet overtook the want panels and nothing else would ever be rolled.)
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: zephyrzodiac on July 18, 2014, 03:35:00 PM
You only need one sim to interact with a stray and they get the want so setting up the VC the moment you move your family in has worked fine for me.  The only hood where it failed to work was my custom hood, Urban Jungle, when I moved the Travellers into a Downtown lot and a stray appeared on the lot before I had a chance to set up the VC.  I made the mistake of granting the want (Tina Traveller, of course) and in no time every kid in the hood wanted a pet!  But in all my other more recent hoods (apart from the one I'm playing now, which doesn't have Pets installed anyway) I've never seen the want at all.
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: Zirconia Wolf on July 18, 2014, 04:31:57 PM
@Orilon: Very strange, as since adding that mod I have to really work at it to get my Sims to start wanting a pet.

@BO: I never used the launcher at all - just the crack - so I never knew (or cared) when EA quit their support either.  :biglaugh:

Still amazed at all those fools people lapping up this "Ultimate Collection" craziness. I swear some people will never learn...
 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: mark93 on July 18, 2014, 05:10:47 PM
There are a lot of players out there that never had the money to buy all the EP's and SP's and now they get the chance to get it all in 1 package for free.

I have 2 full sets of disk and all 4 tri packs plus 1 set of disk for Sims 1 and the complete collection.

The only reason I got the UC is to install it on my windows 8 machine where it is very hard and takes a lot of time to get the disk to work in.
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: Zirconia Wolf on July 18, 2014, 05:52:23 PM
Quote from: mark93 <snip>
There are a lot of players out there that never had the money to buy all the EP's and SP's and now they get the chance to get it all in 1 package for free.

Yes, but now those very same players are going to have nothing but heartache when they try to install a lot of mods out there (& even some custom content, I'm sure) & they will be screaming about how "such-n-such mod is crap" or "doesn't work" or "crashes the game" & we'll have yet another round of "Sims 2 must be the worst, most unstable game ever made" shit being spread all over the place, which really pisses me off because most of the problems people blame on Sims 2 are completely the fault of the end-user installing the wrong mod or incompatible content. (Not saying it doesn't have its problems - we all know it does - but I grow weary of people raving about "faulty code" when they did something stupid.)

Plus once Origin is in the picture...well, that's a whole 'nuther kettle of fish!

It's bad enough fielding compatibility issue questions with those damn Multi-packs, but now we have this "Complete" Collection (& Origin) to deal with too.

Oh joy. Oh rapture.  :dry:
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: mark93 on July 18, 2014, 06:23:42 PM
This time they used AL/M&G game engine and so far all mods for AL/MG are working with out fell.
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: zephyrzodiac on July 19, 2014, 01:27:59 AM
So, all my games were registered, I also had two digital downloads at one time, so why haven't I been offered the ultimate collection?
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: MaryH on July 19, 2014, 03:54:17 AM
ZZ, here's what EA says about it:
http://help.ea.com/en/article/the-sims-2-ultimate-collection-faq/


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I got an email saying I would get a copy of The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection, but I can’t find it in my library?
The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection is going out to players right now.  Everyone who had a digital copy of The Sims 2 will find the Ultimate Collection in their library within the next 5 days. Just log in to Origin and visit your My Games library.

I hear that you are no longer supporting The Sims 2. What does that mean?
Going forward, EA will no longer be providing any new content or making any additional technical updates to The Sims 2. If you have a problem with your game, you are of course still welcome to contact us here at EA Help.

How do I get The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection?
The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection is being given out to any player who purchased and registered a digital version of The Sims 2.

I didn’t get an email but I want a copy of The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection.
Players who already have registered digital download versions of The Sims 2 and/or The Sims 2 Expansion Packs in their Origin Game Library will have The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection added to their collection automatically. To see if you qualify, launch Origin and check your Game Library.  If The Sims 2 is in your Origin Game Library, then you will receive the upgrade to The Sims 2 Ultimate Edition.

This upgrade to The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection is only available to gamers who purchased the digital version of The Sims 2 from Origin or The EA Store. Owners of physical disc versions of The Sims are not currently eligible for this offer.

What does The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection contain?
The Ultimate Collection includes The Sims 2, as well as every single The Sims 2 expansion pack and stuff pack.

How do I remove the old version of The Sims 2 from my game library?
Just right-click on the old tile for The Sims 2 game and select hide tile.

But other players have gotten it despite no digital download of the game. All I can say is you can check your Origin account, and see if you can call EA about it.

 It's been noted that the FAQ has changed since the start of the giveaway, so perhaps they've changed the rules, again..we all know EA is famous for doing that!

Update: the FAQ was updated yesterday, and here's what it says now:
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At this time, all Origin customers who had previously registered their copy of The Sims 2 should now have the newly remastered The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection in their Origin My Games library.

We know that there are a lot of fans of The Sims who may not have had their copy of the game registered on Origin, and we want to reward The Sims fans for their incredible loyalty and commitment to the franchise.

As a result, we are developing an easy way for any eligible customer who owns a physical disc copy of The Sims 2 to upgrade easily to the new Ultimate Collection edition. We will update this article on or before Wednesday July 23 at 10am PT, with detailed instructions on what you need to do to get your own copy of The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection.
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: arathea on July 19, 2014, 04:05:10 AM
From what I've read, they've changed the no physical disks part. Someone at the Asylum is waiting for an email and noticed the change (It wasn't there when she send her registration request about a day ago.).

ETA: There seems to be some problems with HCDU and CleanInstaller recognizing the UC Downloads folder.
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: zephyrzodiac on July 19, 2014, 04:55:05 AM
I guess it's because I don't have an Origin account!  That's discrimination!!!  They should still have e-mailed me with the offer to download the files if I install Origin.  (I don't want it, of course, but they don't know that.)
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: mark93 on July 19, 2014, 05:28:51 AM
From what I've read, they've changed the no physical disks part. Someone at the Asylum is waiting for an email and noticed the change (It wasn't there when she send her registration request about a day ago.).

ETA: There seems to be some problems with HCDU and CleanInstaller recognizing the UC Downloads folder.

All you need to do is make a "The Sims 2" folder in the EA Games folder and place a copy of your downloads in there and HCDU will check it out for you.
We will need to find someone who know how to edit the HCDU to see the new UC.

For the Clean Installer you just need to set the path is all, see post 457 http://www.modthesims.info/download.php?t=409950&c=1&goto=newpost


This was posted yesterday.
Quote from: EA
At this time, all Origin customers who had previously registered their copy of The Sims 2 should now have the newly remastered The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection in their Origin My Games library.

We know that there are a lot of fans of The Sims who may not have had their copy of the game registered on Origin, and we want to reward The Sims fans for their incredible loyalty and commitment to the franchise.

As a result, we are developing an easy way for any eligible customer who owns a physical disc copy of The Sims 2 to upgrade easily to the new Ultimate Collection edition. We will update this article on or before Wednesday July 23 at 10am PT, with detailed instructions on what you need to do to get your own copy of The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection.
http://help.ea.com/en/article/how-to-get-the-sims-2-ultimate-collection/
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: Usul_Princess on July 19, 2014, 05:32:32 AM
I don't get it. Why did they snub users with physical disks in the first place? How does having hard-copies not make me a loyal player? Huh?!
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: mark93 on July 19, 2014, 05:34:13 AM
See my post above.
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: zephyrzodiac on July 19, 2014, 05:38:39 AM
But I have two digital downloads which they must surely have a record of, even though I replaced them with physical discs when they put Securom on the then current download manager (I forget what it was called.)
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: LilSister on July 19, 2014, 05:44:51 AM
Talk about a coincidence! Yesterday I ordered 3 EP's from Amazon that I didn't have physical copies. My package is due to arrive on July 22. After reading this thread I logged into Origin for the first time in over a year (of course it had to update) and the UC was there. I checked my email account an I noticed the email from them in my Junk Folder.

About 4 years ago EA gave me free digital downloads of EP's after I had a problem and had to reinstall the game. When I first started playing the Sims 2 a co-worker allowed me to load her games on my computer. Before I knew about sites like Simbology, if I had a problem I would call EA customer service. The agents were always very nice, patient and took time to answer my questions. I also appreciated that if they didn't know the answer they were willing to research a solution which is how I found out about several Sims 2 sites where I could get help :thumb: There were other occasions where the customer service person stayed on the phone with me for several hours helping me to find  solutions to my problems and making sure everything worked afterward. Back in  2010 I had to reinstall my game. I had already began purchasing my own copies of Sims 2 EP's and stuff packs, but I was missing Seasons, Bon Voyage and Free Time. Those 3 games were integral parts of my saved game so EA replaced them for free with digital downloads.

I knew at some point something like this was going to happen - I'm glad I was in the zone :cheese:
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: mark93 on July 19, 2014, 06:01:18 AM
If you need CEP you will need to do a Manual Installation for UC.
http://www.modthesims.info/download.php?t=92541
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: zephyrzodiac on July 19, 2014, 06:29:01 AM
When I first had a problem with the Base Game Jump Bug, I phoned Customer Service here in the UK.  They told me my game couldn't be saved and to uninstall everything and reinstall.  Two days later, the patch was released!!!  Luckily, I didn't delete my saved game.  So don't talk to me about Customer Service - they obviously, at least in those days, didn't know what was going on at all.
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: SmilingSweetly on July 19, 2014, 08:16:50 AM
Here's the thread I was looking for.

Do not believe what you see or read re "only those with digital versions are eligible." I have never purchased a single digital copy of a Sims 2 game via Origin. All of mine are disc versions. However, on a whim I did contact EA and within minutes I was given a code and I have it downloaded. It all depends on the CS rep you get. If you get one who is not helping then try another until you do get one. They are out there. I know, I did it as well as many others. Just be patient and persistent.  :thumb:

Also, I never keep Origin on my computer longer than it takes to download something then I remove it again.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: mark93 on July 19, 2014, 09:23:35 AM
I change the title so it makes more sense.
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: Usul_Princess on July 19, 2014, 09:25:39 AM

One thing that does kinda puzzle me though is why a TS2 Complete Collection & not TS3?


I don't think they're willing to offer up their cash cow so quickly, what with the endless DLC and all. TS4 has yet to impress even the most enthusiastic sheep. We may have to wait until 2020 for that, or when they shut down the TS3 store. Whichever comes last.

I just bought to the Holiday Stuff pack two days ago. I'll stick with my hard copies, thanks.
Title: Re: Origin making "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free to owners of T
Post by: Zirconia Wolf on July 19, 2014, 09:59:16 AM
This time they used AL/M&G game engine and so far all mods for AL/MG are working with out fell.

Yes but you still need to create an Origin account & have to uninstall your already existing game & don't get anything you wouldn't get with a normal all EP+ install...oh, forget it!

It is clear that most everyone is all ga-ga in love with EA (& Origin) so what the hell.

(And here I thought TS4 was going to be the thing that finally tore the Sims community apart!)
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: Kivak on July 19, 2014, 10:10:24 AM
Not everyone ZW.

I wish they would just do what they did with Sims 1 offer the disks and you can do it when or if you want.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: zephyrzodiac on July 19, 2014, 12:41:31 PM
If what they are offering is one single set of program files, so a lot of duplicated stuff is gone, and the game therefore loads faster, then it might be worth having.  If all you are doing is replacing those painstakingly installed files for all the EPs and SPs with a similar-looking set of files and folders, I can't see the point.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: arathea on July 19, 2014, 12:46:36 PM
From what I've seen from screenshots posted, there are separate folders for the bundles (with separate folders for EPs/SPs inside) plus separate folders for each remaining EP/SP that isn't part of a bundle.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: zephyrzodiac on July 19, 2014, 01:07:10 PM
So it's basically just all been put in the one large bundle without any attempt to tidy it up?  Figures.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: mark93 on July 19, 2014, 03:56:28 PM
Every thing but for the game engine that is in the other EP/SP is only the TSData nothing else so yes they did tidy it up.

Its starts up faster and SimPE where it use to take up to 2 min to load a hood now is done in 10 sec for me.

This is what folders it has in the programs and what is in each folder.

_Installer with Origin stuff in it.
Apartment Life             = TSData.
Best of Business = EP3 = TSData
                            SP5 = TSData
                            SP7 = TSData
                            VP6 = what I think is the Happy Holiday Stuff pack items
Bon Voyage                  =  TSData
Double Deluxe =    Base = TSData
                             EP2 = TSData
                             SP4 = TSData
Free Time                     = TSData
Fun with Pets =      EP4 = TSData
                             SP1 = TSData
                             SP9 = CSBin, TSBin and TSData Body Shop is in CSBin but no desktop shortcut.
                            Support
Glamour Life Stuff        = TSData
Seasons                       = TSData
Support
University Life = EP1 = TSData
                         SP6 = TSData
                         SP8 = TSData
                         VP6 = same as above
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: BoilingOil on July 19, 2014, 04:04:42 PM
Mark, if by that you mean to say that all the TS2.exe files are gone, except for the last version (M&G version), then it also means no more AGS games. That's going to hurt a few peeps.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: mark93 on July 19, 2014, 04:10:48 PM
AGS never work for the Tri packs in the first place.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: BoilingOil on July 19, 2014, 04:19:12 PM
Since you bring them up, Mark: those tri-packs never were a good idea either. The people who bought every EP/SP separately, are still the best off.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: zephyrzodiac on July 19, 2014, 04:31:19 PM
I suppose in the end it depends on what you want from your game.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: Sleepycat on July 19, 2014, 06:20:13 PM
Considering there are quite a few people that wanted to play TS2 again but didn't want to spend hours re-installing via disks (or in some cases had other issues with re-installing), this is a good thing. I may not have any use for this Ultimate Collection but I love the fact that some of my friends are playing (or going to be playing) TS2 again!  :prancing:
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: zephyrzodiac on July 19, 2014, 06:45:12 PM
Oh, I totally agree!  Some people have lost discs, or they have got badly damaged when used by their kids and left lying around, so this is the ideal solution for them.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: Cabelle on July 19, 2014, 10:27:26 PM
Considering there are quite a few people that wanted to play TS2 again but didn't want to spend hours re-installing via disks (or in some cases had other issues with re-installing), this is a good thing. I may not have any use for this Ultimate Collection but I love the fact that some of my friends are playing (or going to be playing) TS2 again!  :prancing:

Same here. *Waves at everyone* I stepped away for a long while (would lurk & wave on occasion) because much of the focus was now on Sims 3 (not a bad thing, just not my thing) and because real life went straight to messy hell for a long time. I'm excited that not only has real life finally calmed down for me so that I can play my favorite game, there seems to be a lot of interest in Sims 2 again.

I have all the physical disks but I was able to get the UC from a helpful EA customer service rep. It's sitting in my Origin account and I'm not going to do anything with it unless I absolutely need to. So I don't plan on using it, but I'm glad to have it in case of emergency. I have all my physical disks carefully stored and I was even able to load those disks on my brand new, Windows 8 (utter garbage OS!) computer. It took me all day, and I had to copy & paste the TSBin & TSData folders from the base game and each EP/SP on my older computer to the new one to make it update & play properly. But, it's working and I'm happily simming again. I am blown away that even with around 4G of CC, my game loads so fast.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: BoilingOil on July 20, 2014, 02:11:48 AM
Hi Cabelle, welcome back!

Yeah, a new machine and new OS (no matter how shyte the latter may be) will usually do that: speed up the load times considerably.

Focus out here was never on TS3, you know. Just check how relatively tiny our TS3 section is! ;) We've always remained mostly a TS2 site, and we will until we give up.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: zephyrzodiac on July 20, 2014, 03:27:42 AM
I suppose, though, there will be some of our members who will ask for a TS4 section....
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: BoilingOil on July 20, 2014, 04:01:49 AM
I suppose some will. We may have to confer about our response to such requests.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: MaryH on July 20, 2014, 04:15:36 AM
If there's enough interest in such a subject. After the last couple of days, I tend to believe that there might not be that many people who will.

That is, if they have any sense.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: BoilingOil on July 20, 2014, 04:33:03 AM
I'm not yet overly enthusiastic about setting up such a section, either, @MaryH. I'd need a sufficient number of requests first.

This is primarily a fan-site geared towards answering TS2 related questions. We have hardly any knowledge even of TS3 and it shows: the TS3 section attracts hardly any public. TS4 doesn't look to become very popular among us, so do we want to have yet another mostly dead section?
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: arathea on July 20, 2014, 04:43:50 AM
I'm not really active here now so you can just ignore me on that matter but since the TS3 section is almost dead, why not turn it into a more general area for any sims games but 2?
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: BoilingOil on July 20, 2014, 05:39:29 AM
Ignore a good idea? Nah! I could actually go with that.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: arathea on July 20, 2014, 05:47:16 AM
 :cheese:

At least you'd stick with one probably almost dead section instead of having a bunch of it.  :wink:
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: MaryH on July 20, 2014, 07:50:44 AM
In fact, I think we should stick to Sims 2 primarily because of the popularity of the Ultimate Collection being sent out.

The old game is getting huge renewed attention, and new players are looking for mods/hacks for it.

We just might be a beacon in the land of darkness-forever shining our light for the game!

(and we thought we were old news!)
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: BoilingOil on July 20, 2014, 10:20:12 AM
Old news? Hardly! I've never thought that. I was actually thinking of rallying for an extension of our contract with the host. Because the three years that we originally signed up for, will be over in a few months now, and I don't want to see this place shut down yet.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: zephyrzodiac on July 20, 2014, 10:30:20 AM
We need to get in touch with D_A.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: BoilingOil on July 20, 2014, 10:31:40 AM
Ed Zachary. :thumb:
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: AncientHighway on July 20, 2014, 01:35:07 PM
So...
I'm pickup up vibes that:

While the intent of EA releasing the UC is suspect, they were under no obligation to do so.  They've been taking quite a bit of heat from TS3 and SimCity 5, not to mention the disasters known as Spore and SimCity Societies.  I have no issue with EA trying to rebuild it's rep a bit before the release of TS4 which is already taking heat.

Origin, derived from the Online Store EA had, is trying to live down the mistakes of the Store and early iterations of Origin, namely SecuROM.  Has anyone run a program from Origin lately?  I have with SimCity 5, and there is no trace of SecuROM on my computer.  That's not to say that EA isn't using some other form of pirate protection, which is really a joke since pirates have cracked versions available the same day as release.  There are more than enough programs available to stop anything unwanted from happening over your connection.  If someone goes for the UC and finds SecuROM back on the computer, I'll be the first to acknowledge I was wrong and join the list of Origin nay-sayers.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: BoilingOil on July 20, 2014, 02:14:55 PM
If you put it like that, it's like we want to have it both ways, AH. And I can not deny that there may be some truth in it. But with a history like EA's, I think one can expect us to be suspicious of everything they do. They've called it upon themselves.

Personally, I still advise against registering with Origin or downloading the UC. But if people decide for themselves that they want to risk it, who am I to forbid it? I have not that right, nor do I want it. But myself, I will not be caught dead betraying my principle. I'm still not convinced that there's anything good about the UC, because in essence it's a superversion of the existing tri-pack collections, which have all proven to be incompatible with AGS.

And there is proof that Origin is communicating frantically on numerous ports as soon as you open it. What the hell for, if not for some nefarious purpose? I would conclude that this activity replaces whatever evil stuff the Securom did. Thus, to me they remain suspect.

I guess that as long as the UC is free, we can not complain. But there's nothing that can keep us from questioning EA's motives.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: mark93 on July 20, 2014, 05:44:57 PM
Just incase it is needed for some windows don't know how to handle the "TM" and it needs to be removed.
You only need to do this fix if your game will not run.

Quote
Try this! I got it from a different forum at answers.ea.com (credit goes to MMJJSense) with someone who had a similar issue:
 you need to open regedit (Window+R) and open HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE then SOFTWARE

 For 32 - Bit : Find EA GAMES folder and open the sims 2... change the Display Name... Delete the ™ out... and the problem is solved...

 For 64- Bit : Open Wow6432Node then.. Find EA GAMES folder and open the sims 2... change the Display Name... Delete the ™ out... and the problem is solved...

 Before it's should look like this : The Sims 2™ Ultimate Collection

 After : The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: SmilingSweetly on July 21, 2014, 04:41:54 PM
Considering there are quite a few people that wanted to play TS2 again but didn't want to spend hours re-installing via disks (or in some cases had other issues with re-installing), this is a good thing. I may not have any use for this Ultimate Collection but I love the fact that some of my friends are playing (or going to be playing) TS2 again!  :prancing:

^^This

I finally upgraded my computer this year and had not gotten around to re-installing all of my Sims 2, and frankly was groaning at the thought. Now (it seems so far) I have it all without spending hours doing it. I had saved my old Sims 2 Downloads folder with everything (mods, cc etc) and it looks like everything is working fine with the Ultimate Collection. *crosses fingers* :cheese:
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: zephyrzodiac on July 21, 2014, 04:52:08 PM
http://www.simbology.com/smf/index.php?topic=8938.0

This new thread I just opened should appeal to you, SS.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: Kivak on July 22, 2014, 10:36:19 AM
 :blush:Maybe I am dumb as a stump but I googled Origin and can't find where you log in or get access to the right page, would someone help me out here with a link. Wolfie doesn't want to touch it with a ten foot pole but I think it would be a great back up to have. Our discs are in great shape but stuff happens.

Edited to add Mark Wolfie said sometimes bodyshop doesnt give you a desktop icon you can make one, if you don't know how, she will log on later and let you know how. She is working atm and had to get off the phone with me.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: LilSister on July 22, 2014, 11:28:04 AM
origin  link: https://www.origin.com/en-us/store/
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: zephyrzodiac on July 22, 2014, 11:58:04 AM
Well, I went there and upgraded my account to Origin, but I couldn't find the Ultimate Collection anywhere!
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: mark93 on July 22, 2014, 12:16:04 PM
You have to go here and ask for it http://help.ea.com/en/article/the-sims-2-ultimate-collection-faq/ scroll down to the bottom and click on the "Contact Us" button.

Body shop is in the UC/Fun with Pets/SP9 folder and just need to right click on it and send to desktop (create shortcut).
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: zephyrzodiac on July 22, 2014, 01:33:03 PM
Thanks, Mark, but I am beginning to find my way around there, now!  What a confusing website it is!

BUT - they have the original Sim City 2000 available for just under a fiver, so I downloaded that!  But it seems I can't play it without Origin installed....
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: MaryH on July 22, 2014, 03:28:38 PM
That's the point, ZZ: you download anything from Origin, you have to have Origin to play it..offline or online.

That's why it's so awful.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: Zirconia Wolf on July 22, 2014, 04:59:48 PM
^^^ Ding ding ding ding ding! ^^^

Bingo! MaryH for the win!

The uninstalling-your-existing-game thing is annoying, but somewhat understandable. Requiring Origin is the instant deal killer for me. (Yes, that's right: If this was a set of DISKS that could be installed WITHOUT Origin, I likely would have purchased it just to *have* like I did with the Sims 1 Complete Collection - which was ultimately no different than an my normal EP install - because I do that kind of stuff. May or may not have installed it, but I very well may have purchased it if it lacked the Origin requirement.)

***** EDITED TO ADD THE FOLLOWING *****

Okay, morbid curiosity is getting to me (kind of like watching a train wreck, I guess) so when I saw that a MTS user had made a Sims 2 Ultimate Collection "Splash Screen" thingy - which is pretty lackluster for my personal taste - I got to wondering if this is really what the load screen for the Ultimate Collection looks like or not? (Like I said, just watching a train wreck...)

Here's what TheSammy58 posted, for comparison:
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: BoilingOil on July 22, 2014, 06:42:07 PM
Not a very imaginative splash, if I may say so. They couldn't even be bothered to make THAT look like something...
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: Wolfenblu on July 23, 2014, 11:05:33 AM
Kivak and I had a big argument about this. :diva:

 He has read this thread and now is "thinking" about putting it on the piece of crap computer. (The one that will read forums but dies if you open body shop) I am not sure I even want it there, we are missing a few SPs but I can survive with out them, Ikea, holiday, and something else. I could have gotten Ikea but people were having problems with it.

I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole wearing gloves and spraying lysol.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: arathea on July 23, 2014, 11:08:46 AM
While I don't intend to install it anytime soon (maybe never), I added the UC to my Origin account now that it's easy to do and still for free.

For anyone who want to do the same: Instruction (http://help.ea.com/en/article/how-to-get-the-sims-2-ultimate-collection/)

Not sure for how long this will be available though.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: Cyjon on July 23, 2014, 12:35:56 PM
I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole wearing gloves and spraying lysol.

LOL, I've been saying I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole wrapped in 50 condoms. Sure I'm being paranoid, but how many times do my tears have to stain the soiled mattress before I stop taking candy from the guy in the van?

Frankly, even as anti-piracy as I am, I'd consider the UC "permission" to go steal the original games. After all, it's free now. Yeah, that's BS rationalization, but that's what I'd do rather than get the UC if I didn't already own all the EPs/SPs.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: Zirconia Wolf on July 23, 2014, 12:56:37 PM
@Cyjon:  :lol:

My thoughts exactly!

@Wolfenblu: Oh crap. I hope you manage to win that argument!  :omg:

@BO: If that is the real splash screen, it kinda reflects what it is, IMO. (A shoddy slapped-together piece of sh*t.)
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: arathea on July 23, 2014, 01:08:44 PM
I actually hope that many people will add it to their Origin account. From what I've read elsewhere, the free offer is only for a limited time to cope with all the owners of hardcopies who want the UC. Guess they didn't expect that many people wanting the game that they'd clog up their customersupport.

Nevertheless, if TS4 turns out as the trainwreck it promises to be, there's still hope that a TS5 will see the light once. Afterall, TS2 UC should show them that there's still a huge community interested in such games - if they do it right.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: shuttlegrannyjo on July 23, 2014, 01:29:28 PM
Please don't throw bricks at me but I thought in case anyone does want it and doesn't have it yet...

http://help.ea.com/en/article/how-to-get-the-sims-2-ultimate-collection/

Because you’re a passionate The Sims 2 player, we’re making The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection available free of charge to download to your Origin library. To add the game, just follow these steps:
Start by downloading and installing Origin. If you already have Origin you can skip to step 3.
Not an Origin member? Create a free Origin Account to get in the game.
Launch Origin and log into your Origin Account.
From the ‘Games’ tab in the Origin menu, select ‘Redeem Product Code’ and enter the code
I-LOVE-THE-SIMS
If you’re already an Origin member, you can also redeem your code online. Just visit the Origin code redemption page and log in to your Origin Account. Then enter I-LOVE-THE-SIMS in the ‘Product Code’ field.

Log into Origin and download and play the game any time you want .

Thanks for being a passionate The Sims fan, and enjoy your copy of The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection.

This code will available for redemption until July 31st, 2014 at 10AM PDT.

Everyone that's done this says it's easy-peasy this way   :smile:
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: Zirconia Wolf on July 23, 2014, 01:57:18 PM
Quote from: arathea <snip>
Nevertheless, if TS4 turns out as the trainwreck it promises to be, there's still hope that a TS5 will see the light once. Afterall, TS2 UC should show them that there's still a huge community interested in such games - if they do it right.

Thing is, for many of us "doing it right" means NO Origin and/or online requirements at all, which is clearly not the way EA (& most other game companies) are determined to go.

Plus TS3 made it painfully clear too me that EA has no idea what the Sims series is really about, & since EA now owns the Sims franchise body & soul I can all but guarantee that their will never be any Sim games on my computers any higher than "2" for the foreseeable future.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: MaryH on July 23, 2014, 02:40:56 PM
I have one solution to the UC that not everyone has (damned few, as matter of fact)-my dear friend Lisa is going to be visiting me from Oz next year, and she's promised to bring all the SP's that I don't have along so I can install them and have them all in the computer..

Of course I know what this is, but to hell with what EA thinks-I don't want Origin near my computer, and this is the safest way to do it without going near it.

Of course she's getting the UC herself, (only for testing, ahem)..but imagine a friend so great that they'd make the special effort to bring what you're missing from the game from 20,000 miles away!

She's also the one who gifted me the majority of my game anyway.  She doesn't think much of 3 or 4, and believe me, when 4 comes out she's gonna see what the fuss isn't about. She's not impressed so far. She does building for houses in 2, (she has her own site-Calipip Sims) and she's always been the loyal S2 fan.

BTW, Lisa is the owner of RYG, in case that point wasn't there.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: Zirconia Wolf on July 23, 2014, 03:43:44 PM
My sister's TS2 (& TS1) installs were all from my disks too.

Yeah, yeah, I know; but she's my sister & that's how we roll!  :biglaugh:

For the record, that is the only game series we shared like that, most likely because of the ridiculous amount of disks involved.

(Ask me how often I cry myself to sleep at night over *screwing* EA out of a purchase.  X) )

Being a super addict, I already have all EPs/SPs, so I have no use for this Origin nightmare. (Would have purchased a HARD COPY Complete Collection just to own, but not an Origin one!)
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: SmilingSweetly on July 23, 2014, 04:52:00 PM
That's the point, ZZ: you download anything from Origin, you have to have Origin to play it..offline or online.

That's why it's so awful.

I beg to differ with you there, Mary. I only install Origin on my computer when I want to download something Sims related (I am not familiar with other games from there as I use Steam for all the rest). I then promptly uninstall it. I will get a pop up when I try to use the Launcher (which is rarely and only to install something from the store) that nags me about not having Origin installed, but I just ignore it and go about my business. I prefer to not keep Origin on my computer as it causes my game to crash, for some unknown reason.

Also, as soon as I used Origin to install the TS2 Ultimate, I promptly uninstalled it and have been playing it without Origin. The only thing I have found that I could not play without Origin is the Sims 4 CAS Demo. No big loss there as I tried it for all of 10 minutes, shut it down and then removed Origin.   :smile:


Edit: And for those who are having trouble getting it, it seems EA has lifted restrictions on getting Ultimate. Free Sims 2 for a week (http://simsvip.com/2014/07/23/one-week-only-the-sims-2-ultimate-collection-free/)
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: zephyrzodiac on July 23, 2014, 04:56:53 PM
Well, all I can say is, I now have Origin installed on this laptop.  I have disabled it at start-up (the option is there when you install it), and so far I haven't noticed anything weird going on, as happened very quickly with SecuRom (and that I put down to Sony trying to force people to buy Sony hardware, not EA).  As far as I'm concerned, Origin can send all the info it likes about me that it can find on this computer,  I'm sure they will be extremely interested in my grocery order from Sainsbury's, or the bra and knickers I recently bought from M&S!

When it's running, it uses quite a lot of RAM, but since it only runs when I tell it to, that's not a problem.  It seems to me that they have developed it from EA Core, which I used to have in order to play Seasons before it was released over here, and that never caused me any problems, either.  If someone could tell me whether they have removed SecuROM from Sim City Societies, I would download that again in an instant, after all, I paid for it!

SS, it uses a heck of a lot of RAM, so that might explain the crashing.  Not a problem for me with Sim City 2000 - you can run those old DOS games on next to nothing.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: Zirconia Wolf on July 23, 2014, 09:48:06 PM
ZZ, you are a brave soul!
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: Orilon on July 23, 2014, 10:45:43 PM
I've always been extremely curious, and downloaded the Ultimate Collection out of curiosity.  I was not happy to see SecuROM lurking in my registry (I use a cracked .exe so it wasn't there before I downloaded the Ultimate Collection).  So I uninstalled the Ultimate Collection and spend the afternoon getting SecuROM and Origin out of my registry (my fault for my curiousity). I re-installed my physical disc EPs and SPs.

Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: BoilingOil on July 23, 2014, 11:44:15 PM
So, they still add SecuRom registry entries, huh? I *knew* they couldn't be trusted! :)
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: Sleepycat on July 24, 2014, 01:29:32 AM
I installed Origin again, got the Ultimate Collection added to my account and then uninstalled it, again. I don't currently need the UC but it's free so I couldn't see passing it up. 

I could have gotten Ikea but people were having problems with it.

I saw you mention this before and meant to comment on it. I never had any trouble with the Ikea SP (on either of my computers) and don't recall anyone else having trouble with it.   :hmm:
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: zephyrzodiac on July 24, 2014, 03:50:08 AM
The only problem I know of with Ikea is uninstalling it without removing your Downloads first.  Apart from that, along with K&B, I'd say it's the best of the stuff packs.

Orilon, this is a Sony Vaio laptop, so even if Securom is lurking, it's not going to stop my Sony DVD player from working.  However, I will run a check to see if it is hiding somewhere here.

Used jv16 to search my registry, and ran a Windows search and found zilch.  When I got it before (from Societies - my fault entirely) a Windows search found it in Application Data somewhere without a problem, so either it's better at hiding, or it isn't on my computer.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: mark93 on July 24, 2014, 08:39:29 AM
You don't even have to download Origin to get the UC as a back up.

Make a account at Origin and then go to the "Origin code redemption page" and enter the code.
 http://help.ea.com/en/article/how-to-get-the-sims-2-ultimate-collection/
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: Zirconia Wolf on July 24, 2014, 09:25:21 AM
Quote from: Orilon <snip>
I've always been extremely curious, and downloaded the Ultimate Collection out of curiosity.  I was not happy to see SecuROM lurking in my registry...

So, while Origin may not be *required* to play the UC you still get to deal with SuckRot, eh? Well if that isn't the nail in the coffin for me, I don't know what is!

Offer me a set of disks - that I will promptly find a crack for - & I just might have tossed a few final dollars your way EA because I'm something of a disk "collector" when it comes to games I really enjoy. But a free case of SuckRot is not my idea of a great offer.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: SmilingSweetly on July 24, 2014, 10:21:15 AM
SS, it uses a heck of a lot of RAM, so that might explain the crashing.  Not a problem for me with Sim City 2000 - you can run those old DOS games on next to nothing.

That may be the case, I honestly haven't a clue. All I do know is that I kept having these random crashes when playing so I went in search of an answer. I finally came across a comment someone made about removing Origin and their random crashes stopped. I figured it couldn't hurt, removed it and the crashes stopped. I even tested it later on by re-installing Origin after however many patches and the crashes started up again. So now I play without Origin. My BF even has some games he got through Origin and he plays those without Origin on his computer.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: AncientHighway on July 24, 2014, 12:30:43 PM
Orilon says she got SecuROM  from the UC.
SleepyCat doesn't mention SecuROM but doesn't appear to have installed the UC.
ZZ says she can find no trace of SecurROM although it's not clear if she ran the UC.

It appears Origin itself doesn't require SecuROM.  Any further findings from those that have run the UC?
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: BoilingOil on July 24, 2014, 01:14:40 PM
I would guess (nothing substantial, really), that SecuRom isn't necessarily tied in with Origin, but traces of its installation - such as some registry entries - might have remained in the game executable, where SecuROM installation was initially started from in all expansions since BV.

Wisdom worth no more than €0.02  ;)
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: Orilon on July 24, 2014, 01:23:37 PM
I don't think Origin itself requires SecuROM.  I didn't have SecuROM when I just had the Sims 3 base game that required Origin to play, but not any Sims 2 EPs. I just saw SecuROM after I installed the Ultimate collection, most likely from  Bon Voyage and the EPs after. I had heard conflicting info about whether or not the digital versions of Bon Voyage and the EPs after still had SecuROM or not.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: zephyrzodiac on July 24, 2014, 01:54:08 PM
I think that may well be the case, which is why I'm reluctant to download my copy of Societies again, after the trouble it caused before, in the days when getting rid of SecuROM was 8 hours hard labour!  So, although my Sony laptop would cope with SecuROM, it won't cope with the UC or, probably, Societies (screen is too small for starters), neither of my desktops is a Sony, and I want my DVD drives to stay functioning.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: TwistedSister on July 26, 2014, 01:30:05 PM
*pops out of lurk mode* :ninja:

I went and grabbed UC, mostly to get the three SPs I wasn't able to find on disc, and as a backup in case my game decides to explode (my DVD drive recently went kaput, so I can't reinstall the discs I have, and three of my current SPs were installed from discs I no longer have). I haven't downloaded/installed it yet though, and given the aforementioned risk of going Sim-less, I won't until I'm sure it'll work.

So just to clarify: Origin - despite it's warning when you try to uninstall it - won't keep you from running UC at all? And its removal is actually necessary to let the game run properly in the first place?
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: zephyrzodiac on July 26, 2014, 01:42:51 PM
Presumably you need to point the desktop icon somewhere other than Origin?

BTW, if you tell Origin not to load at Start Up, it doesn't - unlike some programs I could mention that are far more invasive (Google Chrome & Adobe for starters) and if you check in the Task Manager, it definitely isn't there.  It really is just an improved version of EACore, which never caused me any problems at all.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: Aaroneous on July 26, 2014, 09:16:00 PM
Well curiosity got the better of me and I installed the Ultimate Collection. Just a word of warning if one uses SimPe with the Ultimate Collection that SimPe can not properly detect the expansion and stuff packs. The base game is detected properly though. It seems EA changed the registry entries for the expansions and stuff packs so now SimPe can't find them.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: AncientHighway on July 26, 2014, 09:24:21 PM
It seems EA changed the registry entries for the expansions and stuff packs so now SimPe can't find them.

Is this true even if you manually enable the various EPs and SPs?
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: Aaroneous on July 26, 2014, 09:58:02 PM
It's true. Even if You imputed the correct install paths for the expansion and stuff packs they remained greyed out in SimPe. If You go into the folder where SimPe is installed and then go into the Data folder, There should be a file called expansions.xreg. Which shows SimPe looks for certain registry entries for the expansion and stuff packs. In a normal install each game has it's own registry entry. But with The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection it only has one entry and that's the one for the base game. I had to hack up the expansions.xreg file to fix the issue. Probably not the best solution, But it seems to work so far.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: AncientHighway on July 26, 2014, 11:12:34 PM
Just to make sure I understand, you were able to modify the expansions.xreg and get SimPE to work recognizing everything?  That file would be worth posting.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: BoilingOil on July 26, 2014, 11:42:53 PM
I'd say so!
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: zephyrzodiac on July 27, 2014, 12:36:28 AM
I totally agree!  That's not something everyone would be able to do!
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: Aaroneous on July 27, 2014, 10:32:33 AM
That's right AncientHighway. This file just strictly detects what games are installed nothing more. For those interested here is the file http://www.mediafire.com/download/to38hu5oc82rbqg/ExpansionsXREG_UpdatedForUC.zip. To update SimPe's file go to it's install folder then to the Data folder, In the Data folder there should be a file called expansions.xreg. I would first back up the original file then place my edited file in the same directory. After that SimPe should detect that the expansions are installed.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: Alasdair on July 28, 2014, 06:09:21 AM
Thanks
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: Zirconia Wolf on July 28, 2014, 07:13:40 AM
Just for kicks I have added a link to Aaroneous's post about tweaking SimPE to the sticky thread about the UC & mod compatibility, to help make it easier (I hope) for other UC users to find this very needed piece of information.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: BoilingOil on July 28, 2014, 07:46:25 AM
Good idea, ZW. :thumb:
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: AncientHighway on July 28, 2014, 08:22:35 AM
ABUSE OF POWER!    :lol:
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: zephyrzodiac on July 28, 2014, 08:25:47 AM
If you've got it, flaunt use it!
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: BoilingOil on July 28, 2014, 08:29:34 AM
Should we not ban AH for a while for questioning board policy? :lol:
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: zephyrzodiac on July 28, 2014, 08:33:07 AM
Hey, this is a democracy!!! :giggle:
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: BoilingOil on July 28, 2014, 12:26:19 PM
That's why I asked, in stead of deciding unilaterally :halo:
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: mark93 on July 28, 2014, 01:10:16 PM
That's right AncientHighway. This file just strictly detects what games are installed nothing more. For those interested here is the file http://www.mediafire.com/download/to38hu5oc82rbqg/ExpansionsXREG_UpdatedForUC.zip. To update SimPe's file go to it's install folder then to the Data folder, In the Data folder there should be a file called expansions.xreg. I would first back up the original file then place my edited file in the same directory. After that SimPe should detect that the expansions are installed.

This is a great fix but can this post be seen by none registered user?
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: AncientHighway on July 28, 2014, 01:21:45 PM
Hey, this is a democracy!!! :giggle:

Bah!  Since when are websites a democracy?
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: arathea on July 28, 2014, 01:46:09 PM
Hey, this is a democracy!!! :giggle:

Bah!  Since when are websites a democracy?

Like every democracy it depends on who's eligible to vote.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: BoilingOil on July 28, 2014, 01:57:14 PM
This is a great fix but can this post be seen by none registered user?

Whoever is not registered, is a guest, not a user. And no, guests will not be able to see it. But they will see indications that the information exists. If they want to know more, they will register.

The purpose of this board has always been to offer TJ's mods for free without registration and to allow people to see the documentation for these mods. We've adapted these rules to include other mods. Do we need to disclose everything this easily? Because SimPE support is an entirely different beast from mod support. The staff may have to discuss this, and maybe rearrange some stuff, depending on their decision. I can imagine a solution where this and other info is made available to the SimPE site, where it belongs.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: zephyrzodiac on July 28, 2014, 02:29:34 PM
How long does it take someone to register? They can't download anything at MTS unless they do, so we are actually far more helpful.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: arathea on July 28, 2014, 02:40:41 PM
Depends on your email address. If I had to register now, I'd be out of luck here.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: BoilingOil on July 28, 2014, 03:02:35 PM
If it were as clear-cut as a yes-or-no question, I'd vote to simply leave things the way they are. But the restriction on webmail addresses makes that it's not that simple. It complicates matters.

Every honest simmer should have a fair chance to register and/or otherwise access the data they require, but we do not need to be buried in suspected spammers. Alas, these requirements are not entirely compatible.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: croiduire on July 28, 2014, 05:18:42 PM
More feedback...
I have installed UC. I checked my registry for SecureROM; no sign of it. After chugging for a bit at start-up, SimPE located everything and is working fine. The only oddity (to me) so far is this pop-up:

Custom Content Browser ESRB Notice: Online interactions not rated by the ESRB. Do you wish to connect to thesims2.ea.com? (Y/N)

I don't recall ever seeing that before. Has it always been there, or is it new?
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: BoilingOil on July 28, 2014, 06:21:53 PM
One note here: if you actually searched for the phrase "SecureROM", I'm not surprised that you didn't find anything. The hated thing is named "SecuROM", which is a different string. I advise you to make sure that you searched for the correct phrase.

That ESRB Notice somehow reminds me of the Loader.exe thingy. That thing contained a small custom browser which always wanted to connect to thesims2.ea.com too. Maybe you could check what your game shortcut points at. If it's loader.exe, maybe you can make it point at TS2EP9.exe (or something similar) instead.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: croiduire on July 28, 2014, 06:51:19 PM
I typed regedit into search, then when the registry came up, looked for:

CmdLineExt.dll
CmdLineExt01.dll
CmdLineExt02.dll
CmdLineExt03.dll
CmdLineExt
CmdLineExt.exe
CmdLineContextMenu Class
CmdLineExtInstaller.exe
CmdLineExt.CmdLineContextMenu
CmdLineExt.CmdLineContextMenu.1
paull.dll
drm_dyndat_*.dll
drm_dialogs.dll
SecuExp.exe
CmdLineExt_x64.dll

Those are the only files the SecuRom removal tutorial I followed mentioned. Did I miss something?
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: Orilon on July 28, 2014, 07:03:59 PM
Did you search for the actual word "SecuROM" with that exact spelling?  That is how I found it in mine.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: croiduire on July 28, 2014, 07:50:06 PM
Did you search for the actual word "SecuROM" with that exact spelling?  That is how I found it in mine.

Yes, that's where I started, doing a full search, not only in the registry.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: BoilingOil on July 28, 2014, 07:55:17 PM
A normal search will NOT search the registry, though. You must really go into regedit, and then search the registry for this SecuROM string.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: croiduire on July 28, 2014, 11:17:48 PM
OK, further testing...
I checked again, and by using the SecuROM uninstaller (from the SecuROM site) found two undeletable (by that utility) stubs. Even trashreg didn't find anything else. So, I went into UC, as if I were going to play the game, and checked...and there it was in the registry, a full SecuROM install. I exited UC, deleted (via utility) SecuROM, again was left with the stubs, went back into UC, and SecuROM had repopulated. THAT seems to be the one element EA updated when they made UC. It does seem to be spyware, for whatever unfathomable reason.

Also, as I said earlier, with Aaroneous replacement expansions.xreg, SimPE recognised all the expansions just fine. However, when I tried to generate an objects list, all that showed up were the things in that lame holiday pack. Now that may be because I suck and did something wrong, so further testing is needed, but SimPE never did this to me before when I was using either real or virtual discs. If utterly reliable SimPE is having a case of hiccups that bad, methinks it's time to uninstall. Which is a bloody shame--I was really looking forward to playing again. Ahh, well...
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: zephyrzodiac on July 28, 2014, 11:43:00 PM
You know, if a criminal gang put such a program on your computer, and they were based in the US, Europe or other modern countries, and they were caught by the police, they would be charged with a crime.  So why, when Sony/EA do the same thing, does nothing happen.  Don't say they are somehow above the law - the Eurozone dealt quite firmly with Google.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: croiduire on July 28, 2014, 11:53:19 PM
They are not above the law, ZZ, they are the law. We in the US have lived in a plutocracy for a very long time; the belief that we are a Republic is a pleasant and comforting fiction, nothing more.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: Aaroneous on July 29, 2014, 12:43:58 AM
croiduire did You update the paths SimPe points to for the SPs and EP? Because by default SimPe has them point at \Program Files\EA Games\EP or SP name. But EA the changed the paths with the Ultimate Collection. They should be something like this Program Files\Origin Games\The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection\EP or SP name.

You can find the path SimPe is pointing at by going to Extras, Then Preferences. From there find the tab System folders. Once there You should be able to find what path SimPe is pointing at and update them.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: croiduire on July 29, 2014, 01:54:40 AM
What is says exactly (copy-pasta) is:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Origin Games\The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection\ for all expansions and SPs.

Edit: And Origin, UC, and (finally!) SecuROM are uninstalled. FWIW, although the version of SecuROM EA used is impossible to remove using conventional methods, the SecuROM removal tool (from Sony) followed by Regdelnull (Microsoft) seems to have done the trick. I had no luck using TrashRegX64, but I only tried the freeware version.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: Kivak on July 29, 2014, 10:23:31 AM
Hey, this is a democracy!!! :giggle:

Bah!  Since when are websites a democracy?

Like every democracy it depends on who's eligible to vote.

That is so true
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: MaryH on July 29, 2014, 10:49:36 AM
This page shows the listings of Securom in the registry-and as noted before, some of the entries are hidden: http://www.reclaimyourgame.com/content.php/387-Sims-2-Ultimate-Collection-and-SecuROM\

You can remove all of it by using either the tool listed in the article and Trash Reg. It seems to do the job.

It's just a shame though that EA never trusted anyone..to this day. We're the victims of their paranoia, and it damages both sides.

As much as I'd like to have gotten it, I realize now why I was so wary of it-EA has never been loath to put it's paws on anyone they deem a pirate, even for a game that they themselves have discontinued support for.

Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: Orilon on July 29, 2014, 11:08:37 AM
I use a Freeware version of TrashReg and needed to "search for Null-embedded Keys" and have it remove the Null-embedding and then go back into regedit to get the last bit of SecuROM out of my registry.

At least there is/are program(s) to help us get rid of this crap.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: inspiredzone on July 29, 2014, 10:14:41 PM
I'm building a new computer in a month or two and have my real game backed up, so I figured I would try. Hello, new Origin stalkers!

I have hard copies of all the EPs, but I'm missing a few SPs. I'm a completest and wanted to know what I was missing out on and if it's worth paying DOUBLE the original prices for hard copies. Really, what's the point of Seasons if I can't have Christmas?!

I'm not sure where people are getting that they need to uninstall their existing games. I didn't see that recommended anywhere. It just created a new "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" folder in the EA Games folder and left my original folder alone.

Not sure if I'll add it to my new computer. I want the stuff. And it's nice to know I'll have a back-up. But this computer is 6 years old and still in decent shape *knock wood* specifically because I kept it as "clean" as possible. I'd like to continue that with the next one.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: BoilingOil on July 30, 2014, 01:09:39 AM
To me, the point of Seasons is the weather and the gardening/farming. Christmas is only a few days a year, and as such not a big deal. I'm not redecorating all my sims' houses for a single day once every 20 sim days.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: zephyrzodiac on July 30, 2014, 01:16:28 AM
From what I remember of the Christmas content, the only thing worth having was the stereo!  The Christmas Tree would catch fire in the middle of the night so to keep your family safe you would need to get a Uni extinguisher and put it over each tree!
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: inspiredzone on July 30, 2014, 06:34:38 AM
I was kidding, I love Seasons as is. Remember the old school day after day of unending sunlight? Lame.

But I can see myself making the effort to celebrate for some households. Just like some households throw parties, go on vacation and group outings, while others come home from work, watch TV and go to bed.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: AncientHighway on July 30, 2014, 06:47:35 AM
I don't know if it's still available, but user created holiday items are much better than that stuff pack anyway.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: zephyrzodiac on July 30, 2014, 06:50:43 AM
Agreed.  There are some beautiful trees out there which don't burst into flames when your family has gone to bed!
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: arathea on July 30, 2014, 07:55:55 AM
Is there a custom Santa too?
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: amarathinee on July 30, 2014, 12:26:50 PM
I'm a bit confused, what exactly was fixed in Aaroneous's file? More specifically, what was grayed out? I fixed the filepaths and done a few default replacements, recolours, ect. from several eps in the past few days without any issue.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: Aaroneous on July 30, 2014, 01:34:01 PM
I fixed in issue that UC caused, Basically it changed the registry entries SimPe uses to detect what expansion and stuff pack are installed. The file paths are not the issue, They just have to be manually updated. What's wrong is the file table SimPe uses to find the different stuff and expansion packs is greyed and disabled if SimPe thinks the they aren't installed. The main problem from this issue is that the Object Workshop can only clone objects from the base game.

You can find the file table by going to Extras then Preferences. And finally click the File Table tab. From there You should be able to tell what expansion and stuff packs SimPe thinks are installed, Any that are greyed out SimPe thinks they are not installed.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: LilSister on August 01, 2014, 06:17:40 AM
My apologies - I thought I was contributing something useful. My mistake.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: zephyrzodiac on August 01, 2014, 07:31:24 AM
The SimPE fix is merely Aaroneous' fix, copied and pasted.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: BoilingOil on August 01, 2014, 07:41:27 AM
Yeah, and Katzengirl, the one who posted it, even says that it was copied from Aaroneous here at Simbology. :-)
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: Rich on August 02, 2014, 08:25:39 AM
Would it be possible to get a little help with the SimPE fix by Aaroneous?... I installed the file and I'm a confused what I do after that...I'm trying to get all the memories to show up in SimPE, but only basegame memories are listed for editing. Can I get them all to show up? :)

Any help would be appreciated. :)
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: AncientHighway on August 02, 2014, 08:37:58 AM
Would it be possible to get a little help with the SimPE fix by Aaroneous?... I installed the file and I'm a confused what I do after that...I'm trying to get all the memories to show up in SimPE, but only basegame memories are listed for editing. Can I get them all to show up? :)

Any help would be appreciated. :)

You probably need to update your paths.  Take a look at this post (http://www.simbology.com/smf/index.php?topic=8929.msg172676#msg172676) for how to do it.
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: Rich on August 02, 2014, 09:56:13 AM
I did that for myself and it worked flawlessly, I did it for my girlfriend and it did not, we double checked everything was the same across our versions of SimPE, she redownloaded SimPE and that didn't fix it either after she re-did the fix.



Unnecessary quote removed!
Title: Re: "The Sims 2 Ultimate Collection" available for free
Post by: mark93 on September 19, 2017, 05:34:29 PM
Just to let everyone know EA is still giving away for free the UC, players over at MTS are still getting it today.

Ya, ya ya 3 years ya. :halo: