Topic: Triplets & Quads (Read 85398 times)

twojeffs · « **on:** March 25, 2008, 10:33:50 PM »

Triplets & Quads - Version 3.1

Compatible with: All versions

There are two versions of this mod available. The full version with all the features listed below, and the random only version, which will automatically use the random option described below. You will receive no dialogs with the random only version (except possibly for vacation time).

General Features:

Adds Triplets and Quads to the possible birth options, with ability to choose how many babies you want a sim to have.
Option to randomly get 1, 2, 3, or 4 babies, plus ability to set your own odds. See below.
Option to simply have the original number of babies the sim was going to have.
If both genetic parents of the new baby(ies) live on the same lot, you will have the option to choose who gets the 3 days vacation time to care for the newborn(s). If you have triplets or quads, both parents will get 3 days off work if they both have jobs.
Most dialog text is translated for English, as well as Dutch, French, and German and Spanish.

This mod will affect the birth process of all pregnant sims, including sims that are already pregnant when the mod is installed. Nothing is changed about the pregnancy itself. You can get the sim pregnant any way you like. This will override the number of babies only, and does it only after the sim goes into labor.

How the Birth Process is Handled:
The options you get are always dependent on how much room is left on the lot for sims. If there is only room for one more sim, you won't see anything. You'll just get one baby. If you do have room, here’s what happens:

After the sim goes through the labor pains, you'll get a dialog with three options:

Choose the number of babies yourself. This will bring up one or more dialogs for you to pick how many babies you want. If available, you'll get asked about quads first. Say no to quads and get the choice of trips, twins, or single.
Have a random number of babies - odd are 60% single, 25% twins, 10% triplets, 5% quads. –these odds are adjustable. See below.
Have the original number of babies the sim was made pregnant with. This will always be a single birth or twins, just like the regular game.

How Vacation Time is Handled:
After all of the babies are born, you may or may not get a dialog asking who will be staying home to care for the newborn(s). This can only happen if both the genetic mother and father live on the same lot.

If you have a single baby or twins :

If both parents have jobs, you will be asked who should get the 3 days off.
If the mother has no job, but the father does, you will be asked who will be caring for the baby. Selecting the father will give him 3 days off. Useful if mom is unemployed, but you want her to get a job immediately after giving birth and have dad stay home with the baby. Select the mom and nobody gets time off.
If only the mother works, or the father does not live on the lot, she will automatically get 3 days off work like normal.

If you have triplets or quads:

The mother and father are both given 3 days off work if they have jobs and both live on the lot.

How to Change the Random Option Odds:
Simply click on the active sim (the one with the plumbob) and select Adjust...Multiple Birth Odds (or Adjust Birth Odds for orig only). Once you pick which multiple's odds you want to change you will see the 'buy food' dialog. Fill up the bar to set the new odds. The 'delivery fee' line will show what the current odds are. The line above that shows what you are changing it to. Ignore the 'total cost' line at the bottom, that is NOT used. When done, hit ok and the odds will be changed.

The changes you make ONLY affect the current lot. Every lot can have different settings. If you want to change the odds globally for every lot see post #34 or the readme file for instructions.
To change a value to zero, hit cancel once the ‘buy food’ dialog appears. A new dialog will pop up asking if you want to change the value to zero or not.
If you change the odds and the new value makes the total go over 100%, the highest percentage of the three will automatically be lowered to bring the total back to 100%. You will get a dialog letting you know what was changed.
The new dialogs and pie menus are only available in English at this time.
If you use the Inteenimator teen pregnancy hack, and have the Fertility treatment option active, the random function will use THOSE odds and NOT the ones you set. If you want the game to use your odds, turn off the fertility treatment before the sim gives birth.

Instructions for Changing the Global Random Odds: - NEW

Set the odds for each multiple to the values you want using the procedure above.
Once set, click on the active sim and select Adjust…Multiple Birth Odds…Copy to Global. This option will make the current lot’s odds the new default odds for the entire neighborhood.
Note that you can still have lots using their own settings. A lot will only use the global defaults if you have not altered them since installing version 3.0 or higher. Odds set in previous versions will be overridden by the new global defaults.

Compatibility
This mod is known to be compatible with most (if not all) other mods that affect pregnancy. It is compatible with all Awesome™ hacks/mods, the Insimenator, the Inteenimator, and Jenflower’s non-pregnancy teen woohoo (and same sex pregnancy) hacks. As of version 2.6 it will also now allow multiple births if you have a hack that increases the max sims on a lot past the normal eight, such as Doc Doofus' from MTS2.

Known issues: (these are not bugs, just things to be aware of)

When you have triplets or quads, the character creation screen will still say that two babies are on the way. I don't think this can by changed, but ignore it. Your sim will have 3 or 4 babies.
After triplets or quads are born, you will get 2 separate dialogs to name all the babies. 2 names the first time, 1 or 2 the second. No way around this either.
If you have quads, expect a bit of a lag (will act like the game froze for a few seconds). It takes a while for the game to create that many new characters at once.
Also with quads, and even trips, if you know that you’re having them, try to get the sim as big a room as possible (or a big nursery!) before giving birth. I've noticed that sims are pretty stupid about where they try to drop one baby to have the next one.

NOTE: DO NOT INSTALL THE REGULAR AND RANDOM ONLY VERSION AT THE SAME TIME!

Triplets & Quads.zip
Triplets & Quads - Random Only.zip

lrl12345 · « **Reply #1 on:** June 20, 2009, 08:52:55 PM »

help!!!!! please help i don't know how to download or do anything with this mod and im desperate for triplets and quads

zephyrzodiac · « **Reply #2 on:** June 20, 2009, 10:26:47 PM »

http://www.simbology.com/smf/index.php?topic=23.0

eagoodwin · « **Reply #3 on:** July 23, 2009, 06:36:24 AM »

can you explain it differently i dont understand how you get to choose how many babies

zephyrzodiac · « **Reply #4 on:** July 23, 2009, 07:01:52 AM »

Once you have downloaded the mod, read the instructions that are included..... and you don't get to choose how many, you get to increase or decrease the odds.

Zirconia Wolf · « **Reply #5 on:** July 23, 2009, 07:26:19 AM »

Actually it depends on the version you pick.

The Random Only is just that: no choice, but you can tweak the odds like ZZ said.

The regular (non-random) version will give you a choice of a random birth (using the odds you set) or a "choose-how-many" birth. I like the regular version as it gives me the optional power to ensure that certain Sims never have "too many" offspring. Let's face it, some Sims shouldn't have any kids, let alone 4 of them!

zephyrzodiac · « **Reply #6 on:** July 23, 2009, 08:13:43 AM »

Oops! got that wrong, but it's not a mod I use, and I was really going on what I'd read, so I guess most people who post about it are using the Random version. But would anyone really want quads every single time? More like pet litters, in my opinion.

Tamha · « **Reply #7 on:** July 23, 2009, 10:46:05 PM »

When I had the normal version I found myself hitting the random or original button much of the time, but I've heard of people using it to always force a single baby, as a random roll will not override twins on the normal pregnancy token with a single baby.

Zirconia Wolf · « **Reply #8 on:** July 24, 2009, 06:52:14 AM »

That's why I like the regular version. It lets me ENSURE that certain couples will NOT be baby-spammed!

True to Murphy's Law, it doesn't matter how low you set the quad option; it WILL roll at the worst possible time. A long-ago version of Don & Cassandra taught me that lesson. So now the random button is only hit when I really don't care about the number of offspring.

Actually, the normal version presents you with 3 options at the time of birth: Random, Choice & Original Number (which would only ever be single or twins) so it's the best choice if you don't want certain Sims to be uber reproductive....or you like to "punish" certain others!

Tamha · « **Reply #9 on:** July 24, 2009, 08:07:50 AM »

I have my odds for quads set to zero, as I don't want to deal with that many at once. I like the possibility of triplets, though, which is why I have this still in my game.

Zirconia Wolf · « **Reply #10 on:** July 24, 2009, 01:34:42 PM »

I left Quads at 5% but changed the other odds (Singles=50% Twins=35% Trips=15%) so that Twins/Trips are far more likely than Quads. I have never had quads since when hitting Random...but I enjoy the risk! (Again, I only hit Random when I want to take the risk...which depends on the Sim in question.)

zephyrzodiac · « **Reply #11 on:** July 24, 2009, 03:27:46 PM »

You know, when I was teaching, I only ever came across one set of triplets. Twins, almost every year group would have at least one set (depending on the number of kids in the year group, mainly...) As for quads, not even one set. The only other set of triplets I've known in my life was a set in my sister's class at primary school. Triplets, in my view, are pretty rare, and quads plus, rarer still..... so, in a very large hood, I might be tempted to install the mod just for long enough to get one set (either, not both) before pulling the mod again.....

miros1 · « **Reply #12 on:** July 24, 2009, 05:42:25 PM »

I vaguely remember something like the chance of twins is 1 in 87. Triplets, 1 in 87 squared, or 7569. Quads, 1 in 87 cubed, or 658503.

Of course, this is without fertility drugs or in vitro where the doctors don't beat it into the woman's head that it's not safe to try to carry 8 babies to term...

zephyrzodiac · « **Reply #13 on:** July 24, 2009, 07:06:20 PM »

I think it also, to some extent, depends on where you live. If the local population have a long history of twins, and there's a genetic tendency towards them, then there's a higher chance.... I had one class (special needs) of 21 kids, and two pairs of twins. I can't remember if they were the only twins in that year group (around 140 kids in all), though.

soshoutori · « **Reply #14 on:** July 24, 2009, 07:09:03 PM »

Actually, they did advise Octo-mom to terminate some of the fetuses when they realized just how freaking many they were, but doctors can't force their patients to take good, well-thought-out advice...

Secondly, ZZ, you wouldn't have to take the mod out. By using the "choice" option, you could chose which family you wanted to have the triplets, and then simply use the original (single or twins) option thereafter!

zephyrzodiac · « **Reply #15 on:** July 24, 2009, 07:11:42 PM »

No point leaving it in if it has done what I wanted it to do, though.... Mind you, I could just create three toddlers in CAS..... they'd just be fraternal triplets, not identicals, but then identicals are very rare in the game, anyway.

soshoutori · « **Reply #16 on:** July 24, 2009, 07:13:15 PM »

Ahh... Good point!

zephyrzodiac · « **Reply #17 on:** July 24, 2009, 07:15:42 PM »

Plus I get to give them the same birthsign, which makes so much more sense than, say, twins - one of whom is Gemini and the other Capricorn... come on, EA! Twins with a six-month age gap?

miros1 · « **Reply #18 on:** July 24, 2009, 07:28:27 PM »

Quote from: soshoutori on July 24, 2009, 07:09:03 PM

Actually, they did advise Octo-mom to terminate some of the fetuses when they realized just how freaking many they were, but doctors can't force their patients to take good, well-thought-out advice...

The point is, they need to tell the parents this before they implant a litter of embryos, and tell them they can't implant eight or ten unless they agree to selective termination in advance. Some women need 8 implanted to get one to take. Others, every embryo takes... and you don't know which until you try.

zephyrzodiac · « **Reply #19 on:** July 24, 2009, 07:35:04 PM »

They also need to be reminded that one, or two babies have a much better chance of a normal, non-premature birth, and that premature birth carries enormous risks for future problems, both health and educational, and is not something one should just take the easy decision and say it is all dependent on *God's will*. If you are going to medically intervene in order to have the babies that *God's will* never intended you to have, you can't leave the rest of the decision making up to God!

Zirconia Wolf · « **Reply #20 on:** July 24, 2009, 07:44:44 PM »

Quote from: zephyrzodiac

...If you are going to medically intervene in order to have the babies that *God's will* never intended you to have, you can't leave the rest of the decision making up to God!

MCRFan190109 · « **Reply #21 on:** July 28, 2009, 07:22:47 AM »

If you can't conceive,then learn to live with that.Adopt or something.

Or if you're over the age 50,get a pet.

Quote from: zephyrzodiac on July 24, 2009, 07:35:04 PM

They also need to be reminded that one, or two babies have a much better chance of a normal, non-premature birth...

Exactly.I was born 1 and a half months premature.I was supposed to be a twin,but he/she died months beforehand.My mom was first to realise she was still pregnant.

zephyrzodiac · « **Reply #22 on:** July 28, 2009, 07:35:28 AM »

I don't think there's anything wrong in trying to overcome a problem in the conception area - it's when the woman concerned stops seeing her body as part of herself, and merely as a baby-maker and incubator that the problems start! Also, there are newer methods of IVF which don't require such large numbers of embryos to be implanted, and maybe more clinics should be recommending these methods - or do they get paid per embryo, one wonders?

miros1 · « **Reply #23 on:** July 28, 2009, 08:49:33 AM »

I think the doctors don't discuss "selective termination" with the woman before hand. Otherwise, they'd just implant a couple and repeat the process more often.

zephyrzodiac · « **Reply #24 on:** July 28, 2009, 09:12:21 AM »

I think that clinics here have to provide very in-depth counselling - and I'm pretty sure they stopped such large implantations a while ago, except, maybe, where a smaller number hasn't resulted in a single pregnancy. Mind you, if one out of four doesn't *take*, then I can't see that doubling the odds will make much difference.

To be honest, I think western society has to look at the causes of female infertility and start from there! A girl gets Candida, treat all her known partners... it's a devastating condition for women, and men just don't even know they have it, and promiscuous young men don't really appreciate how it can turn a couple's life upside-down. The sad thing is, it's such an easy condition to treat if it isn't allowed to get a hold and cause irreversible damage!

miros1 · « **Reply #25 on:** July 28, 2009, 12:05:39 PM »

Sometimes, I think they're counting the dollar signs too... If a man is infertile, they just don't make as much money off it, partially because there's less they can do. So sometimes they say it's the woman or it's both of them, so they can "try and fail" a bunch of times.

zephyrzodiac · « **Reply #26 on:** July 28, 2009, 02:02:45 PM »

It's also virtually impossible to convince some men that the fault could lie with them - you only have to read the Bible - it was always the woman's fault!

Pope · « **Reply #27 on:** July 31, 2009, 04:00:24 PM »

I work in a doctor's office *not a fertility specialist* and have seen at least 6 multiple pregnancies that are "naturally occuring" in the office, and that's just 1 out of the 6 or 8 family practice clinics in the valley, makes me nervous about drinking the water around here

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Anyhow on another note I think Chlamydia and/or Ghonorrhea are often more likely to be the cause of infertility than Candida which is a simple yeast infection.

zephyrzodiac · « **Reply #28 on:** July 31, 2009, 05:31:11 PM »

That's probably what I meant (chlamydia)...... I get confused by all these medical terms these days!

Pope · « **Reply #29 on:** July 31, 2009, 07:32:34 PM »

It's all good these days it seems amazing if i even remember which day it is when i wake up in the morning

zephyrzodiac · « **Reply #30 on:** August 01, 2009, 12:38:18 AM »

I almost never do! I have to load up a News website to find out!

miros1 · « **Reply #31 on:** August 01, 2009, 10:05:22 AM »

I just use the system clock. The news is probably bad, and my friends tell me if anything important happened.

zephyrzodiac · « **Reply #32 on:** August 01, 2009, 10:45:48 AM »

Mine tells me the date and time, I think I have to open the calendar to find out the day of the week..... agreed, the news is nearly all bad, but I like to keep up with it, although I did go for a long time without being interested at all. When I lose interest, it's usually a sign that my Depression has kicked in badly.....

TwistedSister · « **Reply #33 on:** August 01, 2009, 01:46:27 PM »

I just open up my cell phone to find out the date and time...has a built-in alarm clock too.

And no pesky news stories!

zephyrzodiac · « **Reply #34 on:** August 01, 2009, 01:56:12 PM »

My desk-phone shows me the time, and that's all. I don't have a cell-phone these days, they are too big an expense for the amount of use they would get!

soshoutori · « **Reply #35 on:** August 01, 2009, 02:14:50 PM »

I *only* have a cell phone... Here in Ontario, it's cheaper to have a cell phone than a land line, and I sure as heck wasn't paying for both!

zephyrzodiac · « **Reply #36 on:** August 01, 2009, 03:51:50 PM »

My Internet comes free with my phone line!

kacidama · « **Reply #37 on:** August 01, 2009, 04:53:41 PM »

I don't have a mobile and I was completing an online purchase which they wouldn't let me complete without a cell phone number for contact

zephyrzodiac · « **Reply #38 on:** August 01, 2009, 05:43:04 PM »

Well, I'd tell them where they could stick whatever it was you wanted to buy, and it wouldn't be comfortable!

kacidama · « **Reply #39 on:** August 02, 2009, 02:08:32 AM »

It certainly wouldn't

It was a slatted bed base!!

zephyrzodiac · « **Reply #40 on:** August 02, 2009, 03:02:24 AM »

Hypnawtik · « **Reply #41 on:** October 17, 2009, 09:58:32 PM »

I just downloaded the regular hack, had my first set of quads (yippee!) however one stopped moving and couldn't be interacted with any more-therefore his needs dropped and the social worker took them all-any fixes to this? Also, my game has crashed 3 times-i'm almost ready to uninstall this hack but i really want to make itwork-I read that an update to this problem was provided in 2008-is anyone still experiencing this problem? Any fixes, suggestions?

ancienthighway · « **Reply #42 on:** October 17, 2009, 10:46:43 PM »

Usually with frozen babies, the best fix is to exit the lot, then reenter. Baby should be by the mailbox.

Hypnawtik · « **Reply #43 on:** October 18, 2009, 08:48:00 AM »

Thanks for the feedback however i had already saved my progress when the baby was frozen (didn't know he was). I did get out and get back in, but it was too late.

ancienthighway · « **Reply #44 on:** October 18, 2009, 09:08:54 AM »

Try deleting the baby then. Save and exit, then reenter.

Hypnawtik · « **Reply #45 on:** October 18, 2009, 11:49:51 AM »

Thanks! Hopefully I won't have this problem again.

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